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Posted - 18/12/2009 :  17:09:13  Show Profile
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Originally posted by SexyBear77

Its a marketing technique, they want to sell you an animal without the added cost and loss of space associated with a whole new setup.

There is no need to take a solitary animal and force it to live with another, especially as an inexperienced keeper.



I'm sorry but saying that Its a marketing technique is a loads of s***.
My two snakes cost me 60pounds 30each and I got a 4foot viv with two heat mats and loads of bits of wood and hides and 50 pounds worth of aspin for 120 pounds now you tell me that this is a marketing technique.
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Posted - 18/12/2009 :  17:14:17  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Tango and mango

quote:
Originally posted by SexyBear77

Its a marketing technique, they want to sell you an animal without the added cost and loss of space associated with a whole new setup.

There is no need to take a solitary animal and force it to live with another, especially as an inexperienced keeper.



I'm sorry but saying that Its a marketing technique is a loads of s***.
My two snakes cost me 60pounds 30each and I got a 4foot viv with two heat mats and loads of bits of wood and hides and 50 pounds worth of aspin for 120 pounds now you tell me that this is a marketing technique.




very true


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HannahB
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/12/2009 :  17:25:11  Show Profile
the more snakes a shop can sell the more they can get in and continue to sell..

they arent necessarily going to tell you that two snakes will need separate vivs and everything - why would they when it would probably put you off getting two if you learnt that it was going to be twice as much..

T&M you obviously were lucky getting that set up for £60, not all shops are priced that low.. out of interest how much was the viv?


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Posted - 18/12/2009 :  17:26:13  Show Profile
Thank you someone els knows what im talking about thanks lol :-)
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 18/12/2009 :  17:27:42  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Tango and mango

quote:
Originally posted by SexyBear77

Its a marketing technique, they want to sell you an animal without the added cost and loss of space associated with a whole new setup.

There is no need to take a solitary animal and force it to live with another, especially as an inexperienced keeper.



I'm sorry but saying that Its a marketing technique is a loads of s***.
My two snakes cost me 60pounds 30each and I got a 4foot viv with two heat mats and loads of bits of wood and hides and 50 pounds worth of aspin for 120 pounds now you tell me that this is a marketing technique.



Please refrain from being so rude, I have so far...

My point was, would you have been as happy to buy the 2 snakes, but then pay for 2 vivs, 2 stats, 2 heatmats etc etc?

Or did you prefer paying for just one setup?

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Posted - 18/12/2009 :  17:30:25  Show Profile
I'm not sure it was all a big bundle so about 60maby but it was 120 for everything
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HannahB
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Posted - 18/12/2009 :  17:37:15  Show Profile
if you had been told that to have two snakes it would have been double that would you have gotten two?
thats what SB and I meant when she said its a marketing tactic..


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Posted - 18/12/2009 :  17:38:06  Show Profile
And I would buy 2 of everything beacuse I wanted 2 snakes
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Posted - 18/12/2009 :  17:40:44  Show Profile
I have split my 4foot viv and I'm slowly getting more lights and heat mat and that's all I need and there sorted
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HannahB
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Posted - 18/12/2009 :  17:56:25  Show Profile
if you have split a 4foot viv then really you only need one heat mat - assuming that you have split it in the middle just put the heatmat in the middle so the hot ends are next to each other..


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Posted - 18/12/2009 :  18:03:57  Show Profile
i bought 2 snakes to start off with and bought every tink twice and had them split i maked a choice off puting mine together in the end it did cost alot and now i have loads off spare stuff lol


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Posted - 18/12/2009 :  18:16:48  Show Profile
That would be betta lol saves money. How many do you have ( any1 can reply) lol
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Posted - 18/12/2009 :  19:15:35  Show Profile
How many people are uk and us????
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Posted - 18/12/2009 :  21:00:55  Show Profile
Ok so when I fed my guys Thursday that ate them ok but have been hideing allday today they both came out once had a drink and hid again ???? Is this what they do
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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 19/12/2009 :  20:59:40  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address
After feeding, yes they do tend to do that.



quote:
Originally posted by HannahB

if you have split a 4foot viv then really you only need one heat mat - assuming that you have split it in the middle just put the heatmat in the middle so the hot ends are next to each other..



That's what I've just done.
I have a 4ft viv which has been split down the middle.
The heat-mat is under the partition, so both sides have a warm bit and because the viv dimensions are the same the stat runs the mat lovely.

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hillzi
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/12/2009 :  23:04:41  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Tango and mango

quote:
Originally posted by SexyBear77

Its a marketing technique, they want to sell you an animal without the added cost and loss of space associated with a whole new setup.

There is no need to take a solitary animal and force it to live with another, especially as an inexperienced keeper.



I'm sorry but saying that Its a marketing technique is a loads of s***.
My two snakes cost me 60pounds 30each and I got a 4foot viv with two heat mats and loads of bits of wood and hides and 50 pounds worth of aspin for 120 pounds now you tell me that this is a marketing technique.



That doesn't validate your point, thats served as a marketing technique as you bought the blooming thing!!!!

If you have any futher 'statements' you wish you share with me, please validate them and do it privately. This isn't RFUK...

Although it maybe worth you heading over there..
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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 20/12/2009 :  01:50:00  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address

Lets make something crystal clear shall we??

The marketing technique refered to is in regards selling multiple snakes and only 1 viv.
Shops make more money out of selling snakes than vivs etc.

If you buy 2 snakes and 1 viv, then you need to come back every week to buy food for the mouse, they now have a near permanant customer that will potentially spend even more money in the future.

My local shop sells hatchling corns and the kit, but will state only 1 to a viv.

If you buy a snake for (lets just pick a number) £30, then have to spend another £50-60 quid on the setup (assuming the correct setup of Stat,mat, faun and a hide or 2). That puts the total in the 90 quid mark.
Now imagine being told that if you wanted a second snake it's gonna cost you the same, very few people will do it.

Hence the marketing technique of allowing multiple hatchlings in 1 faun. They KNOW they can sell hatchlings all day long, but the setup, they may only sell a couple a week. So what, they lose the sale of a 50 quid setup, but they make hundreds in selling baby snakes AND food for the next few years.


That's one thing clear.

The next thing is SO simple that even a starfish could understand.

DO NOT USE FOUL LANGUAGE ON OUR BOARDS.
DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT DIRECTING FOUL LANGUAGE AT ANYONE, IF YOU WANT TO THEN I PERSONALLY WILL TAKE IT AS DIRECTED AT ME!


If anyone spots any language that seems to be directed, then can drop me a message as well, just in case I have missed it, unless other MODS have already taken care of it.
Thanks everyone.

Fairly simple really, and just in case anyone has the inability to understand my starfish reasoning, then maybe you REALLY do need to think before you post.

We're an easy going forum here, we're relaxed and we have a laugh BUT we wont sit back and have people talk in a manner we don't like, if you're totally unsure of what is right and wrong, then may I suggest you have a good read of the forum rules, found here: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4941

Starfish do not have brains

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Paulusworm
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/12/2009 :  10:51:30  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Kehhlyr

The next thing is SO simple that even a starfish could understand.

DO NOT USE FOUL LANGUAGE ON OUR BOARDS.
DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT DIRECTING FOUL LANGUAGE AT ANYONE, IF YOU WANT TO THEN I PERSONALLY WILL TAKE IT AS DIRECTED AT ME!


If anyone spots any language that seems to be directed, then can drop me a message as well, just in case I have missed it, unless other MODS have already taken care of it.
Thanks everyone.

Fairly simple really, and just in case anyone has the inability to understand my starfish reasoning, then maybe you REALLY do need to think before you post.

We're an easy going forum here, we're relaxed and we have a laugh BUT we wont sit back and have people talk in a manner we don't like, if you're totally unsure of what is right and wrong, then may I suggest you have a good read of the forum rules, found here: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4941

Starfish do not have brains



Ditto. This type of behaviour will no longer be tolerated.


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hiper2009
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/12/2009 :  13:11:33  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Kehhlyr


Lets make something crystal clear shall we??

The marketing technique refered to is in regards selling multiple snakes and only 1 viv.
Shops make more money out of selling snakes than vivs etc.

If you buy 2 snakes and 1 viv, then you need to come back every week to buy food for the mouse, they now have a near permanant customer that will potentially spend even more money in the future.

My local shop sells hatchling corns and the kit, but will state only 1 to a viv.

If you buy a snake for (lets just pick a number) £30, then have to spend another £50-60 quid on the setup (assuming the correct setup of Stat,mat, faun and a hide or 2). That puts the total in the 90 quid mark.
Now imagine being told that if you wanted a second snake it's gonna cost you the same, very few people will do it.

Hence the marketing technique of allowing multiple hatchlings in 1 faun. They KNOW they can sell hatchlings all day long, but the setup, they may only sell a couple a week. So what, they lose the sale of a 50 quid setup, but they make hundreds in selling baby snakes AND food for the next few years.


That's one thing clear.

The next thing is SO simple that even a starfish could understand.

DO NOT USE FOUL LANGUAGE ON OUR BOARDS.
DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT DIRECTING FOUL LANGUAGE AT ANYONE, IF YOU WANT TO THEN I PERSONALLY WILL TAKE IT AS DIRECTED AT ME!


If anyone spots any language that seems to be directed, then can drop me a message as well, just in case I have missed it, unless other MODS have already taken care of it.
Thanks everyone.

Fairly simple really, and just in case anyone has the inability to understand my starfish reasoning, then maybe you REALLY do need to think before you post.

We're an easy going forum here, we're relaxed and we have a laugh BUT we wont sit back and have people talk in a manner we don't like, if you're totally unsure of what is right and wrong, then may I suggest you have a good read of the forum rules, found here: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4941

Starfish do not have brains



Well said Phil

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Posted - 20/12/2009 :  15:48:37  Show Profile
I am a bit disterbed that this topic has gotten so heated when someone new has just asked some very simple keeping instructions. It disturbs me that some of you have taken it so personal that someone has chosen to pic what advice they think is probably right. There is alot of keeping advice out there and you can't assume that just because you have said it that it is the only correct advice. I am also an experianced keeper and have had snakes ALL of my life, since about age 2. I would never be so big headed to think that my advice is the only advice. I'm shoked at the comments here!!
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