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 Posted - 18/12/2009 : 17:49:42
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I have decided to make a progresion topic on both my corns that i have housed together. Now i know alot off people that would not do this and be very against what i have doing. I will be keeping all the info on the 2 corns on here to let every one know how its going (weight, length, eating ect) and i will aslo try post videos off them together pics ect her is and info file off them today
BOD = (May 2009)
Morph = Hypo carolina and beleaved to be a amel correct my if wrong
Sex = Hypo (Male), Amel (Male not sure will get it checked soon)
Weight = Hypo (82 grams) Amel (62 Grams) as off 18/12/2009
Length = Hypo (35 inches) Amel (26 inches) EST as off 18/12/2009
i will be geting some pics up very soon off them and the setup off the tank
In the tank is 7 hides, 3 on the warm side and 4 on the cold side with two water bowls on each side
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Nazzle
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Posted - 18/12/2009 : 18:05:25
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| If they are both males be very carefull. Although I don't house corns together, the place I work DID house two corns together after being given them by the RSPCA and being advised it was OK. During the cold spell last year they started a courtship dance. I haven't been able to find two other corns doing this, but have seen other species on the web. They entwined around each other and started to vibrate. Then one started to bite the other viciously. Luckily I managed to separate them before too much damage was done, but one had some nasty bites on it. I dread to think what would have happend if I left them together. These were two adult snakes of similar size and weight who had lived together for about 4 years with no problems. Although I was not originally employed to look after the animals, and have little prior experience, after much debate I have now had the welfare of the animals added to my job description and can honestly say I would never consider housing two corns together again. I know you have read all the information other more experienced people have given but I feel I should let you know about my personal (and quite scary) experience. |
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HannahB
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Posted - 18/12/2009 : 18:09:28
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hypo carolina?
sure its not just a hypo? iv never come across a hypo carolina before..
you dont want a water bowl in the warm side - will create too much humidity |
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Posted - 18/12/2009 : 18:09:58
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thx for letting me know do you have any advice on the vivarium how i could set it up for 2 corns or is it fine how it is??
if i ever did notice that happen i would spit them up right away as i already got an other viv setup and ready to go my gf is always about and there is always some one home watcing them |
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Posted - 18/12/2009 : 18:13:57
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hypo carolina?
sure its not just a hypo? iv never come across a hypo carolina before..
you dont want a water bowl in the warm side - will create too much humidity
its just off the heat mat the humidity range is normally between 70 and 80. when i bought my corns i was told they where hypo carolina and red candy cane but i posted on the morpth section that my red candy cane is infact a amel so it might be wrong as well i will get pics up soon and would love to know what he is i beleave he is a normal/wild |
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Posted - 18/12/2009 : 18:16:17
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2 corns into one don't go.....
i have seen them pics before and hope this wont happen if any stress ocours i would spit them up |
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Posted - 18/12/2009 : 18:28:09
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Originally posted by Nazzle
If they are both males be very carefull. Although I don't house corns together, the place I work DID house two corns together after being given them by the RSPCA and being advised it was OK. During the cold spell last year they started a courtship dance. I haven't been able to find two other corns doing this, but have seen other species on the web. They entwined around each other and started to vibrate. Then one started to bite the other viciously. Luckily I managed to separate them before too much damage was done, but one had some nasty bites on it. I dread to think what would have happend if I left them together. These were two adult snakes of similar size and weight who had lived together for about 4 years with no problems. Although I was not originally employed to look after the animals, and have little prior experience, after much debate I have now had the welfare of the animals added to my job description and can honestly say I would never consider housing two corns together again. I know you have read all the information other more experienced people have given but I feel I should let you know about my personal (and quite scary) experience.
did you notice any bit marks after?? so i know what to expext if one was to bit |
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Posted - 18/12/2009 : 18:36:50
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| Yes, but I honestly believe if I was not there at the time one could have killed the other. Some of the places I saw him bite were not obvious- tiny pin *****s. The only bad ones were where he'd got a good hold. I would personally NEVER risk it and have seen a marked improvement in the temprement and feeding of the boys since they were seperated. I wish I had taken an interest in ours sooner and split them BEFORE it happend. Still feel very guilty about it. |
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Blackecho
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Posted - 18/12/2009 : 19:16:22
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i have seen them pics before and hope this wont happen if any stress ocours i would spit them up
Like the stress when one is digesting the other?
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Posted - 18/12/2009 : 19:19:25
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You can never be so sure if one is going to eat the other i agree with BE on this , Lets say you had to go out for a few hours and your clearly not going to be watching them 24/7 they could easly eat each other when ever they wanted i would advise you to split them up.  |
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Posted - 18/12/2009 : 21:20:45
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here are some pictures off them :)
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Posted - 19/12/2009 : 03:54:07
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i have seen them pics before and hope this wont happen if any stress ocours i would spit them up
The problem is that once you see the signs of stress the snakes have probably been stressed a while and it is only just becoming evident...and may be too late. Why rely on luck and hope when you can be sure about your snakes' welfare by keeping them seperate?
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Posted - 19/12/2009 : 10:53:33
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i have seen them pics before and hope this wont happen if any stress ocours i would spit them up
The problem is that once you see the signs of stress the snakes have probably been stressed a while and it is only just becoming evident...and may be too late. Why rely on luck and hope when you can be sure about your snakes' welfare by keeping them seperate?
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but can stress not be an on and off going thing like one day they might be stressed and the other they are not??
and i dont undersatnd what you mean about it may be to late?? to late for what if i did see any signs i would split them and they would be fine again im i right?? |
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Posted - 19/12/2009 : 10:55:53
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How can you tell if there stressed. My guys curl up and burrow in the aspen and come out a fue hours later I know snakes are night time animals but is this ok for them to do and how can i tell if there sleeping I don't think they close there eyey? Lol :-)
one off my snakes is very active and the other is not if i see them together in a hide or somthing i keep an eye on them i beleave a few signs off stress are the snakes moving funny like twitching, not eating there meal |
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Posted - 19/12/2009 : 11:06:09
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Posted - 19/12/2009 : 11:34:35
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Posted - 19/12/2009 : 11:37:24
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You may already be noticing one becoming dominant over the other then.
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Posted - 19/12/2009 : 11:40:08
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what im trying to do now is change the snakes personalty a bit as the hypo is a very agresive eater and the amel is not as im trying to get the weight of my amel up the same as hypo
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