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Posted - 26/10/2009 :  16:28:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

You may seen posts that I have corn (anerythristic) female. I really want a new viv but can't afford it ATM.

Once upon a time, (10 or so years ago) me and brother got two corns both supposedly female. At the time internet was rubbish so no online help. We trusted shop owner advice and put them in viv together (now understand when young they can be canabalistic). Anyway they were fine until......

They were 3 or 4 years old I woke up one morning and my female laid 13 eggs! Didn't put in laying box as wasn't trying to breed so they didn't hatch. We split them up as didn't want them breeding.

Current day! I need a new viv and the male is ok in the one he is in. Thinking of getting a 4x2x2 ft viv and reuniting them as this would be cheaper cuz me and brother will go halves and could get one now.

My main concerns are:

1. Are they likely to breed at the age of 10 or 11?

2. Getting along again. I would feed them seperately of course & since they didn't eat each other when they were young and more prone to doing so, would this occur now? I know there is a massive debate about co-housing but being that they have done for 1/3 their life?......

I would appreciate a quick reply as I'm between my house (parents) and my & GF flat. At house ATM and if i go ahead I can set all up beofre I go back to flat.

Thanks



0.1.0 Anery corn- LegLess
1.0.0 Carolina corn- NoFeet
1.0.0 Syrian hamster- Jabba
0.2.0 Albino ferrets- Mable & Sue
1.0.0 Cat- Ned

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Posted - 26/10/2009 :  16:33:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh yeah. The main reson behind it (not money, as above suggests) is because I don't have much room in my house (or flat) and my brother's snake is basically MY snake that lives in his room (I do everything for it) and it would be impossible, until I get my own house, of having both vivs in my room & before you ask I have a Royal Python in my flat so it would be the same situation there.



0.1.0 Anery corn- LegLess
1.0.0 Carolina corn- NoFeet
1.0.0 Syrian hamster- Jabba
0.2.0 Albino ferrets- Mable & Sue
1.0.0 Cat- Ned
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lee2308
The Corn Snake Moderator

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Posted - 26/10/2009 :  17:10:33  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
wouldnt risk it ben,been awhile apart and things could turn nasty of even still breed,if you do go ahead with it make sure your prepared for any trouble.


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matty18714
The Count of Corniness

United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/10/2009 :  17:20:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They would not hesitate to breed at that age. They could also fight. There are also a whole lot of other reasons not to co-habit so I wouldnt.

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Posted - 26/10/2009 :  17:36:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah. I won't rush it. Think i'll hold them together a few times, perhaps let her stay in his with me monitoring closely and if it looks ok I may eventually go ahead. Thought I was being bit optamistic.



0.1.0 Anery corn- LegLess
1.0.0 Carolina corn- NoFeet
1.0.0 Syrian hamster- Jabba
0.2.0 Albino ferrets- Mable & Sue
1.0.0 Cat- Ned
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Posted - 26/10/2009 :  17:39:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Scrap that. I'm not going to bother. It was a fleeting thought. Thanks for quick response. I feel it would just have been easier (for me not them, which is the wrong way round) as they would have been in one place & I didn't have to look after him from brothers room.



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1.0.0 Carolina corn- NoFeet
1.0.0 Syrian hamster- Jabba
0.2.0 Albino ferrets- Mable & Sue
1.0.0 Cat- Ned
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Kellog
the nice one

United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/10/2009 :  03:52:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Think you have made the right decision bengy...for the snakes welfare which is most important. I am glad, it just isnt worth risking stressing them, having them mate or even attack each other. xxx


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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3796 Posts

Posted - 27/10/2009 :  10:13:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Definitely made a good decision there, wouldnt want them stressed or injured!

9.11 Cornsnakes
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1.0 Dwarf Burmese python

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KITTYCAT
Hatchling

United Kingdom
492 Posts

Posted - 27/10/2009 :  11:42:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had the same problem we thought they were both female then she layed eggs one day 1 out of 5 survived the rest had dried out diesel hatched in september

1.0.0 carolina corn (herbie)
0.1.0 snow corn (casper)
0.0.1 anery motley corn(diesel)
0.0.1 calafornia banded king snake (ozzy)
0.1.0 royal python (pandora)
0.0.1 boa constrictor (bullet)
1.0.0 weinmaraner (zac)
1.0.0 staffy (zeus)
1.1.0 cats (sophie n pepe)
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PunkAsF82
Yearling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/10/2009 :  11:55:05  Show Profile  Visit PunkAsF82's Homepage  Click to see PunkAsF82's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
good choice mate

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1.0.0 Bearded Dragon - Cooper
0.1.0 Amel corn - Lucky
0.1.0 Normal Leopard Gecko - Layla
1.1.0 Cats - Zelda the Maine Coon & Link the Ragdoll X Tabby
0.0.50 Malawi Cichlids
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HannahB
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/10/2009 :  15:41:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
good decision


2.0 Normal Royal Pythons - Q and Little One
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Posted - 27/10/2009 :  16:34:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yer thanks everyone. I realised soon after postig it that it wouldn't be fair to them!

I just weighed brother's snake for the first time in a while and he is now 1,234 grams (1.2KG)! He is about 5 foot 10 (same length as my female, though she weighs 900grms). They are both on wiener rats (50-60 gram). Shall I continue with them x 2 each feed for the male or go up to small rats, which weigh around 100-130gram?



0.1.0 Anery corn- LegLess
1.0.0 Carolina corn- NoFeet
1.0.0 Syrian hamster- Jabba
0.2.0 Albino ferrets- Mable & Sue
1.0.0 Cat- Ned
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness

United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/10/2009 :  16:37:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would change then from rats to 2 large mice every 10 days. A corn at 1.2kg sounds like quite a round animal, though it can be hard to tell without a photo.

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Posted - 27/10/2009 :  16:56:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Both snakes or just the male. Yeah he's rather round. You wanna see photo?



0.1.0 Anery corn- LegLess
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1.0.0 Syrian hamster- Jabba
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Posted - 27/10/2009 :  17:20:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here he is! He moved a bit from the widest part but this is still an idea of how wide. Despite being brainy, the mobile is for scale only & not for him to use!




0.1.0 Anery corn- LegLess
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1.0.0 Syrian hamster- Jabba
0.2.0 Albino ferrets- Mable & Sue
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HannahB
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Posted - 27/10/2009 :  22:02:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
id change down to 2 large mice - rats arent particularly nutritious for corns as they are mostly fat,
he doesnt look overweight or anything in that pic - no skin showing between the scales so he looks fine to me
is he a caro/normal/wildtype?


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Posted - 27/10/2009 :  22:03:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is the photo showing for you readers? Didn't show for me at first.



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Posted - 27/10/2009 :  23:35:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yer but large mice only weigh 30-40 grams so that'll only be 60-80gm for two mice per feed? that not enough i.e. 10-15% weight rule?



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Posted - 27/10/2009 :  23:39:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh sorry, think he's a caro (he's got orange and black belly on the bottom half then halfway up his length to his head is goes white and black!) so possibly caro mixed with something else?



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