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hiper2009
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Posted - 13/08/2009 :  00:53:16  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address
Is it normal for the cornsnake breed to have a small head and neck and the rest of the body is big or is there some thing wrong with Champagne

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punumbear
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Posted - 13/08/2009 :  01:28:45  Show Profile  Click to see punumbear's MSN Messenger address
lol my first corn slider has still got tiny head n neck but she packs the grub away.Dont be fooled by it...lol


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hiper2009
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Posted - 13/08/2009 :  01:32:18  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address
But i dont understand because he eats 2 mice every feed day and he looks like he wants a 3rd but he wont get it as hes already being greedy as it is and hes body is big but his head and neck is tiny will this grow ? hes 2 yrs old and 3.2ft long.

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lucifer
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Posted - 13/08/2009 :  01:38:17  Show Profile  Visit lucifer's Homepage
You just have to be wary, corns are opportunist feeders and they will eat and eat so its important not to overfeed them.


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SexyBear77
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Posted - 13/08/2009 :  09:33:22  Show Profile
corns dont need big heads and necks as they have the special jaws... dont worry bout it.

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hiper2009
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Posted - 13/08/2009 :  13:58:50  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by SexyBear77

corns dont need big heads and necks as they have the special jaws... dont worry bout it.



Oh whats so special about there jaws ??

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lucifer
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Posted - 13/08/2009 :  14:23:31  Show Profile  Visit lucifer's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by hiper2009

quote:
Originally posted by SexyBear77

corns dont need big heads and necks as they have the special jaws... dont worry bout it.



Oh whats so special about there jaws ??



They dislocate them to swallow their pray


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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 13/08/2009 :  15:04:28  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by hiper2009

quote:
Originally posted by SexyBear77

corns dont need big heads and necks as they have the special jaws... dont worry bout it.



Oh whats so special about there jaws ??



lol seriously? its one of the coolest things about snakes!

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a33272
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Posted - 13/08/2009 :  15:49:39  Show Profile  Visit a33272's Homepage  Send a33272 an AOL message  Click to see a33272's MSN Messenger address
if you watch when they finish eating the jaw is mis-aligned sometimes



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hillzi
The Lost boy.

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3984 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2009 :  16:37:49  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by lucifer

You just have to be wary, corns are opportunist feeders and they will eat and eat so its important not to overfeed them.


Well put; in the wild they don't know when theyr'e going to slither into rats terroritory; so take what they can take!

I wouldn't worry about it, he will grow in time, just every snake is different.
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hillzi
The Lost boy.

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3984 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2009 :  16:39:12  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by lucifer

quote:
Originally posted by hiper2009

quote:
Originally posted by SexyBear77

corns dont need big heads and necks as they have the special jaws... dont worry bout it.



Oh whats so special about there jaws ??



They dislocate them to swallow their pray



I think its because they have incredibly flexible tendons.they don't actually dislocate it. Although that might just be a different type of snake OR it might be a load of tosh. free to correction
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lucifer
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Posted - 13/08/2009 :  17:13:24  Show Profile  Visit lucifer's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by hillzi
I think its because they have incredibly flexible tendons.they don't actually dislocate it. Although that might just be a different type of snake OR it might be a load of tosh. free to correction



Ahhh, I was under the impression that they dislocate both the top and bottom of their jaw so the two can move independently.


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hillzi
The Lost boy.

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Posted - 13/08/2009 :  17:18:01  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by lucifer

quote:
Originally posted by hillzi
I think its because they have incredibly flexible tendons.they don't actually dislocate it. Although that might just be a different type of snake OR it might be a load of tosh. free to correction



Ahhh, I was under the impression that they dislocate both the top and bottom of their jaw so the two can move independently.



But they Yawn.. So I have no idea. I definately know from somewhere think it was on NATGEO tv, on a snake programme... Ach who knows.
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Brookestar
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2361 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2009 :  17:42:25  Show Profile  Click to see Brookestar's MSN Messenger address
quote:
lucifer Posted - 13/08/2009 : 17:13:24
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quote:
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Originally posted by hillzi
I think its because they have incredibly flexible tendons.they don't actually dislocate it. Although that might just be a different type of snake OR it might be a load of tosh. free to correction

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Ahhh, I was under the impression that they dislocate both the top and bottom of their jaw so the two can move independently.




not the top and bottom they just dislocate their bottom jaw
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness

United Kingdom
4428 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2009 :  17:53:19  Show Profile
Snakes dont dis-locate their jaws at all, thats a total myth. They have one more bone than we do at the joint of their jaws which means they can open it wider. Their jaws are also not connected at the chin, so really the snake has 3 seperate jaw bones.

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Posted - 13/08/2009 :  18:04:59  Show Profile
hiper2009 i wouldnt worry too much about Champagne having a small head and neck , my corn tofu is about 3 years, she has a bigger body compared to her head and neck .. ive been told by a reptile specialist and an exotic vet that its perfectly healthy, she is just a bigger corn in general and i think thats the case with your Champagne

im guessing yu feed him a large mouse ? if so you could cut him down to just one large mouse per feed if yur worried hes a little chubby, cause it will help him lose a bit of weight if he needs too, and it dosesnt do um any harm either way .. i hope this helps

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hiper2009
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Posted - 13/08/2009 :  20:38:01  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address
So will his head grow bigger in a few years ?

Also if i cut his feed down to 1 mouse wont he be upset as hes been feeding on 1 mice and then when i bought him ive been feeding him 2 adult mice to fatten him up a lil bit, will this mess with his temperment in any way i dont want to stress him out in any kind of way

Yesterday we had fantasic weather and i took him to the park and then i took him in to town city centre and every one was taking pictures of him its like he was famous i could not belive it i thought every one will be scared i even let a few kids touch him and handle him so they are aware that there is nothing wrong with owning a snake.

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matty18714
The Count of Corniness

United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/08/2009 :  20:54:38  Show Profile
No, he wont mind

quote:
Originally posted by hiper2009

Yesterday we had fantasic weather and i took him to the park and then i took him in to town city centre and every one was taking pictures of him its like he was famous i could not belive it i thought every one will be scared i even let a few kids touch him and handle him so they are aware that there is nothing wrong with owning a snake.



And that has got to be the most irresponsible thing I have heard in a long time.


Edited by - matty18714 on 13/08/2009 20:55:10
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hiper2009
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Posted - 13/08/2009 :  20:57:22  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by matty18714

No, he wont mind

quote:
Originally posted by hiper2009

Yesterday we had fantasic weather and i took him to the park and then i took him in to town city centre and every one was taking pictures of him its like he was famous i could not belive it i thought every one will be scared i even let a few kids touch him and handle him so they are aware that there is nothing wrong with owning a snake.



Whats wrong with that he enjoyed it and so did i
And that has got to be the most irresponsible thing I have heard in a long time.



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matty18714
The Count of Corniness

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Posted - 13/08/2009 :  21:01:49  Show Profile
If you want something to walk around with get a dog. Please please please dont fall into the "I got a snake so people think im cool" catagory.

What if it got away from you?
Could you monitor its temperature when you were out?
What if it scares someone when they hold it and they crush him?
What if (yes, its a big if), people get ill after handling him? (salmonella)
And with the snake things on the news at the moment I dont think its appropriate at all.

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Brookestar
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 13/08/2009 :  21:07:08  Show Profile  Click to see Brookestar's MSN Messenger address
i totally agree with you matty. its just plain stupid! you can risk so many lives including the snakes. there are idiots out there who wouldnt hesitate to jump you and take the snake.
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