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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 27/04/2013 : 19:40:49
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That's wonderful about your son....especially in this day and age when kids seem more worried about their mobiles and computer games than anything that lives and breathes  . But he obviously inherited it from his mum  .
I must admit I'll be happier once they are separated....and it will be great to see pics as Albion puts on weight and begins to thrive living on his own.
Xxx
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andria2013
Hatchling
United Kingdom
219 Posts |
Posted - 27/04/2013 : 19:55:29
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| as soon as he settles in new viv and been fed I will post new pic in new viv |
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andria2013
Hatchling
United Kingdom
219 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2013 : 10:06:14
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| i checked up on the viv lastnight and found out that he let me down. sothat viv is out of the question. found another one but will need waituntil atleast tuesday wednesday t et all other things :( |
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andria2013
Hatchling
United Kingdom
219 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2013 : 14:00:03
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found new viv coming on tuesday
gotta get all accessories for it now
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
7308 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2013 : 19:55:09
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That's frustrating  ....but at least you've managed to sort another new viv and it gives you another day to sort out what else you need.
Xxx
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andria2013
Hatchling
United Kingdom
219 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2013 : 20:26:01
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| yes , the man told me he would keep it for me until monday and deliver it . I called him again to check on saturday and he told me he sold it that day. I've found another and they going to be delivery it on monday night or tuesday night , so tomoro I will take snakes to vet in morning , then afternoon go get all the things I need . hopefully have them seperated by tuesday night, and can concentrate on building them back up . I put off getting the other 2 snakes for the time being I want to concentrate on just Robin n Albion for next few weeks. maybe then I will consider getting others , |
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
7308 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2013 : 21:15:42
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I think that's a REALLY good idea Andria  . It's so easy to be pulled into the corn addiction, especially if you know there are corns in need of a good home....but it's better if you concentrate on the 2 that you've got, who need extra care at the moment, and gain experience, before getting more. You want to be able to give Robin and Albion your full attention for now, not have to share it with other snakes .
Let us know how it goes with the vet tomorrow.
Xxx
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andria2013
Hatchling
United Kingdom
219 Posts |
Posted - 28/04/2013 : 22:28:08
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| I will post the news from vets when I get back tomoro morning |
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andria2013
Hatchling
United Kingdom
219 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2013 : 10:46:13
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| well im back from the vets. Robin is under weight . and has old scars down his body and has loud chest noise , so gotta check humidity of viv .. Albon is really under weight and has an old burn to the left side. thinking its from the light bulb when albion has tried to escape in previous owners . both had vit injections . and albion was prescribed NUTROBAL. MULTIVITAMINS ETC .. |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2013 : 13:15:24
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Did the vet suggest an ideal weight? I agree as well with waiting :)
Glad they got on ok :) won't take them long at all to gain weight, trust me :P |
  
A very special super, duper thanks for K :3 |
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andria2013
Hatchling
United Kingdom
219 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2013 : 13:33:42
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| well robin was under 600g and albion half that . vet said to try robin with a chick since he abit bigger than albion and try feed him a chick every 3-4feeds . bulk him up ait. and the vet said watch albions behaviour for when he wants fed ,and to feed him maybe 2 medium mice each feed . |
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andria2013
Hatchling
United Kingdom
219 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2013 : 13:35:39
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| and give albion the multivitamins for next few month . getn hygrometer to keep an eye on the humidity as robin seems to have loud chest noises when the vet checked his chest . dnt want any respiratory problems |
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andria2013
Hatchling
United Kingdom
219 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2013 : 13:36:19
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| thins that due to the guy who i got them off. having them in same viv and having 2 heat mats in there . and 1 on each side so no cool area realy in viv to regulate there heat . |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2013 : 14:18:09
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| With the advice on the chicks, I do feed my big boy a chick every 6-7 feeds anyway as he loses weight quicker than my female(that and my partner get's them in for me and Sakana has a small head despite being longer than Cereus) so he get's a chicky treat every 6-7 feeds. Only if he's been good though and with all the effort he's been putting in to making babies lately I thought he deserved it. The problem with feeding chicks to make a snake gain weight is that they hold no nutrition really, hence why my boy only get's them as a treat(I swear I have about 60 in my freezer though because of my partner) and some snakes have trouble digesting the beak and feet(not my boy but I have heard of it) so they have to pass the feet and beak out with the rest of their fecal matter if they can't digest them. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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andria2013
Hatchling
United Kingdom
219 Posts |
Posted - 29/04/2013 : 14:38:06
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yh the vet said i have to find a chick with asmaller head or break the head becos Robin might find it hard with the size of the chicks head .
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
7308 Posts |
Posted - 30/04/2013 : 07:54:34
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That really is shocking about Albion's weight  . Silvi is just over 300g and she is only just over 4' and I want to get some more weight on her. As Sta~ple has said, it shouldn't take them long to put the weight on once they are separated and in better circumstances than they were with their previous owners .
I don't have experience with chicks so can't comment about that. What else is it that the vet has suggested you feed Robin, 2 medium mice like Albion? How often? I'm not sure about the vet telling you to feed Albion when he wants to be fed. Snakes are opportunistic feeders and will eat whenever they are offered food, but you don't want to power-feed Albion....you want the weight to go on slowly and steadily. Personally I'd rather he was fed regularly, once a week....no more than that.
I'm sorry about the fact that Robin has got a 'rattle' in his chest  . When the vet said to check the humidity with him, does he mean that he's concerned high humidity has caused a respiratory infection? You might find this thread by someone who's snake was suffering from a Respiratory infection useful, to know what to look out for and what can be done.
The state that both Robin and Albiom are in really does show how important it is to get a snake's set-up right . It's not surprising that there are burn scars and some sort of damage due to the fact that they couldn't thermoregulate, with only having a hot viv and no cool end. I am SO glad you have got them Andria ....and that you are here asking questions and doing what's best for them.
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/04/2013 : 13:03:27
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Originally posted by andria2013
yh the vet said i have to find a chick with asmaller head or break the head becos Robin might find it hard with the size of the chicks head .
It's not the head so much(apart from the beak sticking out) but the hips of the chick Cereus get's Day Old Chicks that my partner get's for me and he does take his time over the hips. There's some pictures Here. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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andria2013
Hatchling
United Kingdom
219 Posts |
Posted - 30/04/2013 : 18:20:22
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vet didnt say Robin had a chest infection ,but said it could be the signs that he could get 1 soon if not sorted out , the vet said to feed chicks to robin maybe every 3-4 feeds to pput sum weight on him but albion too small to be able to handle a chick . i think albion must have got the burn due to where it is on his body , trying to get out the hole the previous owner had made for the normal light bulb to go , and burnt himself on the bulb when it went off was still hot . im so glad I have them now . new viv due in about 1 hour and im sorting the things out for it as we speak . got new digital thermometers due tomoro , and thermostat I will get on friday for new viv . im leaving them to settle after the vets and theyre injections , then ill get them settled apart in there seperate vivs . then leave them again few days get settled after that i'll then feed them .and hopefully can build them bk up to what they should be .
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andria2013
Hatchling
United Kingdom
219 Posts |
Posted - 30/04/2013 : 18:31:24
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| so gotta give albion multi vitmains every feed for next few month , inside the mice . :( they both had vit injections too at the vets so keeping an eye on the injection site . but they aint been too active since then , theyve just curled up in the hides , |
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5091 Posts |
Posted - 30/04/2013 : 19:15:06
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| They have been unlucky up to now - but are lucky you have taken them in and are giving them the proper care they need now :D |
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