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Leasha
Hatchling

Netherlands
246 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  11:58:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have just gotten my first ever snake today, She's a 3 week old albino corn. I bought her from a shop that 'orders' their snakes and reptiles from elsewhere so they mainly sell rodents and fish. Before I went to pick her up I handled my two kittens and guinea pig. I asked for a introduction at the shop before I took her home. I handled her and she seemed healthy in every possible way but then she bit me! I'm not sure whether it's because she was frightened from being in small a plastic tub for two days or because she smelt all the different animals. I have decided to give her 5 more chances within the next month (Yes I am leaving her to settle in for 5 - 7 days.) Should I take her back if she bites me more? x

Lozzy
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1556 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  12:19:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
its just a natural instict especially for a baby, your huuuuge compared to her so understandably she is scared and definatly no need to return her yet she is only a baby and if only 3 weeks old really she should of had 4-6 feeds with her breeder before being sold to you..

A baby snake doesnt need alot of room as that would just stress her out, can i ask how you have her set up? what are her temperatures? do you have a thermostat? plenty of hides and cover? we will be able to help you alot more with this information :)



0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey
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Leasha
Hatchling

Netherlands
246 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  12:40:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Lozzy!
Thank's for the reply.
Her set-up is perfect, It has everything she needs. I'ts between 28-32*C around the viv.
She's curled up inbetween the fake leaves at the moment. She's been in the viv for just under a hour.
I have put a pinkie in there but she crawled straight passed it but I think I will leave it in there for another 2-3 hours and then take it out and throw it. I'm not planning on trying to get her out for the next 7 days. Anything else you need to know? :o
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5292 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  12:41:19  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
unfortunately thats not perfect im afraid, the warm end temp shouldnt go above 29* :)

1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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Leasha
Hatchling

Netherlands
246 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  12:44:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Really?
I'd better go turn it down then!
I have a feeling the guy who sold me the snake was talking out of his bottom :x
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5292 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  12:45:14  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
If its a pet shop, chances are you're right, annoying but true

1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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NexivRed
Yearling

United Kingdom
551 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  12:51:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What substrate do you have her on? You should really remove her from her viv to feed her otherwise you will be asking to be bitten, as she will begin to associate a hand coming into the viv with food appearing. Also, you should never feed on substrate they can accidently inhale.

R.I.P. 0.1: CB10 Ophion - pewter masque het amel
1.0: CB10 lavender stripe het ??? - Alabaster (Bats) Codify
0.1: CB12 hypo plasma het amel - Nebula
0.2: CB13 diffused 66% pos het cinder - Demeter (Mimi) & Bombulurina (Reenie)
1.0: CB13 hypo cinder ?% pos het amel stripe - Huckleberry
0.1: CB13 anery aztec het amel - Tetris
1.0: CB13 gold dust motley stripe - Helios

Edited by - NexivRed on 13/08/2012 15:14:15
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Leasha
Hatchling

Netherlands
246 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  12:57:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@Nexiv It's just this once where I have put a pinkie inside. It's on a rock will be taking it out very soon if she doesn't eat it.
The****at the petshop has no idea when she was last fed. But shes clearly not interested in her food. Thank's for telling me to never put food on substrate. I had no idea snakes inhale it sometimes :)
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Ell
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1640 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  13:04:45  Show Profile  Click to see Ell's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Could we have some pictures? :}

edit: of the set-up I mean :P



1.0.0 Normal corn snake - Dusk
0.1.0 Strawberry Snow Stripe corn snake - Dawn
0.1.0 Harlequin Crested Gecko - Stickles
1.0.0 Sable Syrian Hamster - CoCo
0.1.0 Hognose snake - Truffles

Edited by - Ell on 13/08/2012 13:05:16
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Lozzy
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1556 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  13:10:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
also don't feed her for at least 7 days snakey needs to be left to settle with no handling or feeding for 7 days just water changes and yes as other have said that was too hot for her



0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey
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Lozzy
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1556 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  15:19:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ell

Could we have some pictures? :}

edit: of the set-up I mean :P



This would be helpful if you do have pics,

Also i just realized you have her in a viv, at only 3 weeks old hatchlings are very good escape artists and if you have sliding doors they can fit in between them so be aware of that



0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey
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Leasha
Hatchling

Netherlands
246 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  16:06:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here she is! She came out to say helloo *0*


And here is the viv it's 40x65cm I think: (The rock is hollow with holes in, She has a big water bowl, the thermometer is on the side i don't think you can see it and at the moment she is hiding in the fake plant thing)

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Blackcat
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1235 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  16:11:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As others have said it is quite normal for baby/hatchling corns to bite/nip - it is their means of defence to a big scary hand coming towards them.
Lots of places to hide and artificial foliage in the viv/faunarium will help the snake to feel secure/safe.
You could try the sock thing to get the snake used to your smell. Carry an old sock around with you (close to your body) so that it picks up your scent, then place it in the viv/faunarium with your snake.
When you do handle don't keep the snake out for too long, lots of short handling sessions are usually better than long sessions.
Good luck and well done for leaving your snake to settle in first
edited to add:
Set up looks good.
Just a few pointers/questions.
How are you heating the viv?
Do you control the heat source with a thermostat - these are essential for the well being of the snake.
I can see the thermometer on the side of the viv - this really should be a digital thermometer with a probe which can be placed directly above the heat mat (most people use heat mats for corns as the heat source)
It is also advisable to have a thermometer checking the cool end temps.
Your snake is very pretty



0.0.2 Corn snakes - Morse & Zeus
1.1.0 Brazillian Rainbow Boa's - Indigo & Ruby
0.0.2 Columbian Rainbow Boa's - Orinoco & Tobago
1.0.0 House snake - Hoggle
0.1.0 Crested Gecko - Ludo
2.0.0 cats (RIP Zebee), 0.1.0 Dog, 2.0.0 Horses

Edited by - Blackcat on 13/08/2012 16:18:00
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Leasha
Hatchling

Netherlands
246 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  16:28:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just have one of those heatlamps which you see at the topmiddle. It's quite a bit warmer in Holland then in England so most people around here don't use heatmats. Will consider getting one when winter starts.
I forgot to buy a digital thermometer so at the moment I am borrowing my hermit crab's
Will buy a good one tomorrow! x
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Lozzy
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1556 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  18:15:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
but do you have a thermostat? to control the temps? also as your baby is so young i would reccomend covering 3 sides to make her feel a lil more secure in your viv as its quite large and very open atm



0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey
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Leasha
Hatchling

Netherlands
246 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  20:55:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alright! Will start wallpapering her viv in wrapping paper tomorrow 8D
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Lozzy
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1556 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  21:05:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.petsandexotics.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/153-The-importance-of-using-thermostats PLEASE READ



0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey
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Leasha
Hatchling

Netherlands
246 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2012 :  22:15:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ohmy! :0
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Jenn
Hatchling

Canada
204 Posts

Posted - 14/08/2012 :  07:41:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a similar set up for my hatchies atm and have found they like to go on the front where the panes of glass slide... now mine are about 6 weeks now but I have opted since they are little Houdinis to put a foam weather stripping (yeah cold in Canada) between the panes, nothing sticky, just a little tube of foam that I have cut in half but just to plug it up so nobody can squish thier way through there!... ever see a nature program on the octopus?...!!! lol, needs like mere milimeters to go through, welcome to baby corns!!!


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Leasha
Hatchling

Netherlands
246 Posts

Posted - 14/08/2012 :  09:06:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have checked everywhere for small openings. And Ive seen my corny trying to get through the gap at the sliding parts and she can't fit. It's all good :)
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Jono2411
Yearling

United Kingdom
639 Posts

Posted - 14/08/2012 :  12:07:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Congrats on you snakie :)
Don't worry about a couple of bites here and there, as you know they don't hurt and it's natural instinct for a small snake (especially a 3-week old one!) to be scared of something a million times his size... regular handling (after the settling in period ofc) will help with this. You've got to remember that all animals will defend themselves, from cat scratches, dog bites and I was bitten by my gf's hamster the other day, it's just one of the hazards of looking after any animal :)

As has been said before, 32C is too high for a corn, you want the basking spot to be around 29C...

Hope everything works out for you and your little friend :)
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