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Tasha89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
257 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  20:25:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I finally have some pictures of the babies!!

Here are the first set of hatchlings...can anyone confirm what morphs they are?


Heres a picture of the eye from one of the amels (i think maybe hypo amels?) there is black in the eye as you can see, as far as i know amels should have black pigment?


In this picture can can see it slightly (you can see it more in the flesh) that the last 3rd of the pattern isnt so visable as the rest of the baby...does anyone know what that is?


And lastly i think this is a carolina



Tasha
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4.0.0 - Corns - Hypo-Lavender (Lucifer), Bubblegum Snow (Houdini), Striped Carolina (Sarafino) and Black Cat (Ralphie)
0.2.0 - Corns - Anertheristic (Valentina), Lavender (Aiyana), Lavender (Di-nixi)

Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  20:27:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
normals and amels for my guess x what are the parents?

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  20:32:17  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
yup you got normals and amels, congrats on the clutch :)


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Tasha89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
257 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  20:51:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
mum is anery and dad is hypo lavender...the amels are really red the picture does no justice at all...what about the vanishing pattern? and the black in the eyes?

Tasha
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4.0.0 - Corns - Hypo-Lavender (Lucifer), Bubblegum Snow (Houdini), Striped Carolina (Sarafino) and Black Cat (Ralphie)
0.2.0 - Corns - Anertheristic (Valentina), Lavender (Aiyana), Lavender (Di-nixi)

Edited by - Tasha89 on 10/07/2012 20:52:27
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Figs
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3319 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  21:00:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The black in the eye may just be a paradox marking and the vanishing pattern is.... a vanishing pattern lol! It may change a little when s/hes shed

Both of the parents are het for amel
as far as i can figure out... your normal babies are normals het anery, hypo, lavender, poss het amel
and your amels are amels het anery, hypo and lavender
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Tasha89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
257 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  21:10:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your comments...I thought it might be paradox as my snow from last year also has it...the question i now have is this is the second batch from my female and both clutches have this unusual eye markings when they shoulndt have any black pigment.

what does this mean?
is she carrying anything unusual?
Also how much should i be selling the vanishing patterns for?
and is the vanishing pattern any rarer than any other patterning?
Are the amels hypo?

Tasha
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4.0.0 - Corns - Hypo-Lavender (Lucifer), Bubblegum Snow (Houdini), Striped Carolina (Sarafino) and Black Cat (Ralphie)
0.2.0 - Corns - Anertheristic (Valentina), Lavender (Aiyana), Lavender (Di-nixi)

Edited by - Tasha89 on 10/07/2012 21:21:52
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  21:39:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
they look like regular amels to me, not hypo or vanishing. i thought that the vanishing trait was found in stripes. but again i could be wrong x

no idea about the black eye thing x

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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Tasha89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
257 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  11:14:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your comments so far everyone has been a great help...just have some more questions

Does anyone have any further input to the 'vanishing pattern' theory?
Do the amels carry the paradox gene (showing in there eyes)? and if so of the mum carrying anything unusual?
How can you tell if the amels are hypo after they shed?
What babies do i keep back to breed when able to get the more interesting colours back out of?

Tasha
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4.0.0 - Corns - Hypo-Lavender (Lucifer), Bubblegum Snow (Houdini), Striped Carolina (Sarafino) and Black Cat (Ralphie)
0.2.0 - Corns - Anertheristic (Valentina), Lavender (Aiyana), Lavender (Di-nixi)

Edited by - Tasha89 on 11/07/2012 11:19:49
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  18:39:56  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
your vanishing patterns aren't vanishing patterns. The colour isn't fully developed yet and you should see more as each shed passes.


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Tasha89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
257 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2012 :  14:37:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ooooo ok i see thanks for that i shall keep an eye out, i woke up this morning to number 14!! and 15 and 16 have pipped :D

Any help on the below anyone? :-

Do the amels carry the paradox gene (showing in there eyes)? and if so of the mum carrying anything unusual?What babies do i keep back to breed when able to get the more interesting colours back out of?

Tasha
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4.0.0 - Corns - Hypo-Lavender (Lucifer), Bubblegum Snow (Houdini), Striped Carolina (Sarafino) and Black Cat (Ralphie)
0.2.0 - Corns - Anertheristic (Valentina), Lavender (Aiyana), Lavender (Di-nixi)
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