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DHamilton
Snake Mite

9 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  16:20:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm going to be purchasing a 20 gallon long from a guy, with 2 adult (80% sure females) one is amelanistic and the other is okeetee and i cant choose :O for the tank and one it would be i think he said 85 or could do 110 for both females what should i do both are beautiful.

kev 5
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3065 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  16:36:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
might be wrong but it looks like an amel and a normal to me



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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5292 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  16:37:28  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
thats what i was thinking kev, black borders arent half as thick as they are on an okeetee

1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  16:46:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Both nice an amel and a normal :) Both look as though they have been well fed ;)

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  16:50:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you are not 100% certain they are both females then it would not be a good idea to cohab them if that's what you mean by getting both? As the others have said, that is a normal, not nearly thick enough borders to be called an Okeetee. They are both lovely snakes though, if a little on the chubby side - will need to go on a diet when you get it/them :)

Good luck making your decision!

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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  20:36:10  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
if you are planning on getting both then you'll need another enclosure. A 20 long is bordering on just about big enough for one, and too small if they are good size snakes.


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DHamilton
Snake Mite

9 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  20:43:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I and the owner are pretty sure they are both female, or other wise both male they have lived in the same enclosure their entire lives and they have never had a squabble they are just about 3 feet i believe he said, i wanna get the 20 long for right now, and eventually get a larger :D but i think i want both, i thought the amel was pretty, and it is a cell phone pic so who knows how true to color it is. He was told it was an okeetee but it does look quite a bit darker then a normal to me but i agree it dosent have as thick of bands
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DHamilton
Snake Mite

9 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  20:45:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i was also considering just buying the tank, and the amel from him then ordering a black motley from bhbreptiles different enclosure for sure seeing as it would be a baby
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  20:50:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i do not recal a morph called black motley? defo two beautiful snakes, amel and normal. and you can rest happy that they are keen feeders :)

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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DHamilton
Snake Mite

9 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  20:59:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
haha i can tell, they look like healthy pudgers :D


Edited by - DHamilton on 10/07/2012 20:59:28
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  21:05:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thats an anery motley, which unless irs a anery b (charcoal) it will get yellow gradually starting at its nose down the first half of its body x

anery a
http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/elaphe_guttata/anerythristic/?sid=89f07e20d6c5b94f0ad88c24c0f0b694

anery b (charcoal)
http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/elaphe_guttata/charcoal/?sid=89f07e20d6c5b94f0ad88c24c0f0b694

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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DHamilton
Snake Mite

9 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  21:12:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah i was skimming and noticed that cuz i didnt see any that just used 'black' as the name a morph if hes charcoal thatd be cool but no way to say
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  21:20:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He is a gorgeous hatchling, no wonder you are tempted lol!

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DHamilton
Snake Mite

9 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  21:56:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
riight but id be disappointed if he didnt keep the black or grey ish color and turn out to be more of a brown but who knows :3 my friend needs some one to take the corns sooo i might as well take them off his hands :D
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DHamilton
Snake Mite

9 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  15:20:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just saw a 'sunkissed' could the okeetee possibly be one? i dont know ive never owned corns and i havent seen these in person so i dont know how true to colors that photo is
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NexivRed
Yearling

United Kingdom
551 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  15:27:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pictures of an okeetee here: http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/elaphe_guttata/okeetee/?sid=
I think it's a normal. It looks exactly the same as every other snake that's been pointed out as a normal, and I've seen some normals with thicker bands than that.

Regarding the sunkissed; isn't that the morph that potentially carries the gene for stargazers? In which case not a desirable trait at all unless it's been tested for it and come up clear.

R.I.P. 0.1: CB10 Ophion - pewter masque het amel
1.0: CB10 lavender stripe het ??? - Alabaster (Bats) Codify
0.1: CB12 hypo plasma het amel - Nebula
0.2: CB13 diffused 66% pos het cinder - Demeter (Mimi) & Bombulurina (Reenie)
1.0: CB13 hypo cinder ?% pos het amel stripe - Huckleberry
0.1: CB13 anery aztec het amel - Tetris
1.0: CB13 gold dust motley stripe - Helios
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DHamilton
Snake Mite

9 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  16:46:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i really dont know nexi my buddy got them from some one who needed to rehome them, now he wants to because he has boas he just did his buddy a favor and took them off his hands
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NexivRed
Yearling

United Kingdom
551 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  16:57:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, every snake needs a loving home, so unless you're bothered about breeding them it doesn't really matter if either carry the gene for stargazing or what morph they are. If you like the look of them and it's a good price for snakes you'll enjoy, then get them :)

R.I.P. 0.1: CB10 Ophion - pewter masque het amel
1.0: CB10 lavender stripe het ??? - Alabaster (Bats) Codify
0.1: CB12 hypo plasma het amel - Nebula
0.2: CB13 diffused 66% pos het cinder - Demeter (Mimi) & Bombulurina (Reenie)
1.0: CB13 hypo cinder ?% pos het amel stripe - Huckleberry
0.1: CB13 anery aztec het amel - Tetris
1.0: CB13 gold dust motley stripe - Helios
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DHamilton
Snake Mite

9 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  17:54:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
110 usd for 20 long and the two
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