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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2012 :  21:02:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So sorry, I would have to check the others myself to be sure. Good luck xx

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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2012 :  21:34:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah im going to make slits in most of the other eggs tomorrow.

I got the snake out of the egg and put it into a tub with warm damp kitchen roll. It was definately dead, and was inside a really tight.. sack is the best word i can come up with. looked like it was laminated :S
and its umbillical cord (dunno if thats the right term) but it was wrapped around the snake.
I don't see how it could have breathed when it was alive..
And it was miniature.
well, it was about 8cm long, and the widest part of it was less than half a cm.

its head was the strangest part. It had an almost normal snake head, but its eyes were really black and it had a red nose.
But it looked like its brain was too big for its head.. had a big bulge.

Ive got a pic n will try upload it tomorrow, if anyone is interested in seeing it.. its very weird.

0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)

2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

Location: Ossett


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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3556 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2012 :  21:57:54  Show Profile  Click to see kdlang's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Awww hun I can really understand how worried and confused you are. I have to say I think I would end up cutting more of the eggs to find out if they were all dead but only you can see how the eggs are and make the final decision. Unfortunately I don't have any experience with breeding yet so I am in no position to advise. Why don't you go onto the tcs facebook group and post there with some photos of your eggs and what you found this afternoon. I think there are more people on there with experience of breeding problems

4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire

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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2012 :  22:32:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks. and its okay, i was pretty sure it was dead anyway. it happens lol

I just hope at least one of them hatches seen as i planned on keeping one this year

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2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2012 :  23:33:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just to let people know, i slit four of the eggs.
The four that were the most dented.
I cut a 1cm slit into each, very carefully. And i candled the area first so i didnt hit any major veins or a snake!
Two of them leaked a bit of clear fluid, two of them had bloody fluid. (maybe i hit veins i couldnt see.)

Ill update in the morning if anything significant happens..

0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
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2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1504 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2012 :  00:22:40  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Gd luck. Hope the bloody one is ok


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3065 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2012 :  16:13:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
any news vicki?



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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2012 :  00:05:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
nothing yet, though havent checked since this morning

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2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2012 :  09:34:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All the best, got my fingers crossed for you.

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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2012 :  18:28:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay so ive slit every egg now, just little slits still.

There's been no change, and after finding that the top egg had a dead snake in it I get the feeling none of them are going to hatch.
Very upset, been waiting for what seems like forever for these to hatch.

Whats the opinion on breeding them again now?
Espher has stacked the weight back on from her laying 80 odd days ago, and they both seem healthy enough to.
Do you think they will breed? and is it advisable?

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1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3796 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2012 :  18:56:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't go for a double clutch, laying takes a lot out of a female and I've always thought it's rather selfish to expect a snake to do it all again just for our gain (not that I think you are trying to be selfish). If you wait till next year she will be bigger, stronger, fully recovered and therefore be more likely to lay you a big clutch of healthy eggs, as opposed to you running the risk of getting a small clutch of poor eggs if you go for it again this year.

I'm very sorry about your eggs, but these things happen, patience will pay off in the end. x

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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2012 :  19:02:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah you're right.
And I guess its not worth risking it again.
Although I thought double clutching was where she laid a clutch and began producing another straight away, not breeding her again.

And yeah im gutted about the eggs, but at least next year i can get it right lol.

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2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3796 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2012 :  19:09:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Unplanned double clutching is where they do it themselves, planned double clutching is where you breed again.

It is very frustrating, last year I bred 3 of mine, 2 laid healthy looking clutches which then all died, and the other totally slugged out. Was gutted but this year is going much much better (touch wood!)

9.11 Cornsnakes
1.1 Hogg island boas
1.0 Dwarf Burmese python

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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3065 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2012 :  20:02:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
best to let her build her strength up ready for next year. i know it must be so frustrating. hopefully it will be a lot better for you next year



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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
6129 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2012 :  21:00:19  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by QueenVic

Yeah im going to make slits in most of the other eggs tomorrow.

I got the snake out of the egg and put it into a tub with warm damp kitchen roll. It was definately dead, and was inside a really tight.. sack is the best word i can come up with. looked like it was laminated :S
and its umbillical cord (dunno if thats the right term) but it was wrapped around the snake.
I don't see how it could have breathed when it was alive..
And it was miniature.
well, it was about 8cm long, and the widest part of it was less than half a cm.

its head was the strangest part. It had an almost normal snake head, but its eyes were really black and it had a red nose.
But it looked like its brain was too big for its head.. had a big bulge.

Ive got a pic n will try upload it tomorrow, if anyone is interested in seeing it.. its very weird.



Sounds normal really to me, all animals and humans that I know start of looking like their brain is too big for the head :p

Sorry to hear about your eggs though.



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Elicia
Hatchling

222 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2012 :  00:47:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ive been following this thread, so sorry to hear its not turned out as you hoped. do you def think the others are dead then??xx



Normal Corn-Percy
Speckled King-Bumblebee
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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2012 :  02:44:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sta~ple

quote:
Originally posted by QueenVic

Yeah im going to make slits in most of the other eggs tomorrow.

I got the snake out of the egg and put it into a tub with warm damp kitchen roll. It was definately dead, and was inside a really tight.. sack is the best word i can come up with. looked like it was laminated :S
and its umbillical cord (dunno if thats the right term) but it was wrapped around the snake.
I don't see how it could have breathed when it was alive..
And it was miniature.
well, it was about 8cm long, and the widest part of it was less than half a cm.

its head was the strangest part. It had an almost normal snake head, but its eyes were really black and it had a red nose.
But it looked like its brain was too big for its head.. had a big bulge.

Ive got a pic n will try upload it tomorrow, if anyone is interested in seeing it.. its very weird.



Sounds normal really to me, all animals and humans that I know start of looking like their brain is too big for the head :p

Sorry to hear about your eggs though.



It didn't look normal lol!
maybe it was just cause it was underdeveloped, but i thought it was a deformity of some sort.



And Percy, I really dont know what to think about the other eggs..
Some of them look too collapsed in to have a snake in them, but two of them have filled back out almost to full size :S
So quite confused but slightly hopeful.

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2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

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Elicia
Hatchling

222 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2012 :  12:38:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oh I the suspense is killing me and they are not even my eggs! so I can only imagine how bad it must be for you! I would have had to open them up by now.

Elicia.x



Normal Corn-Percy
Speckled King-Bumblebee
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Katie.Dublin
Sub Adult

Ireland
1560 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2012 :  13:48:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Really sorry to hear that! I've been following their progress :(


0.1 normal (Miami) - Hugo
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0.1 MBK - Tequila. RIP
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2012 :  18:54:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh Vic, sorry things are looking bad :( Still keeping fingers crossed a few of them make it xx

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