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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  21:14:23  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i recently posted about one of my royals not feeding...
any way ive just got home and went to check on the reps
and she was all twisted up and upside down, she is also showing signs of dehydration, she is alive but barely.
so ive sent the other half out for some powerade and im going to bathe her any other ideas please people?

the temps are between 29.5 and 31.5
she is in a small rub with hides, water bowl ect...

Mod Edit: moved for you. More likely to stay at the top in the none photoy bit and your more likely to get answer in this section.



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!

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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  21:26:33  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
sorry wrong section



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  22:05:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Only thing to do really is get her to a vet if she is in a bad way. Your hot spot temp is fractionally cold, 32-35oC (I go for 32-33 though), If she was completely inverted including her head then its a vet trip all the way, if it was her body but the head was the right way up female royals do this when they ovulate (if I remember rightly) but its best to just have a vet look her over.

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky
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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  22:06:07  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
ok just bathed her in the powerade/water mix, might be my imagination but she looks slightly better, but
she keeps doing something strange, she keeps lifting her head and tilting it upside down and just genarally going upside down
any ideas??
pls help



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!
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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  22:08:47  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
yeah she's deffo going to the vet hopefully tommorow if i can get time off work if not sat is the earliest
ive got a decent rep vet near me so hopefully they can help



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!
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lupi lou
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3670 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  22:10:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hope every thing turns out ok, keep us posted


1.0.1 Corns
0.1.0 Dog: springer
1.0.0 Horse
0.4.0 Gerbils
2.2.0 Leopard gecko
0.2.0 Cave gecko
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Figs
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3319 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  22:22:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
fingers crossed for her
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  22:27:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh crap, I almost dont want to say this but cork screwing of the head sounds awfully like a symptom of IBD. Its a disease of Boas but Pythons can catch it and when they do its very quickly fatal. I hope to goodness that its not this but I think its something you will need to look up, there are youtube videos of the behaviour of Royals infected with IBD. I would push to get her to a vet ASAP as it potentially could be your whole boid collection at risk.

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky
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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  22:35:11  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
thankfully my boas are in a different room and my other pythons well away from her.
can corns get this?
is this the disease that boa's carry? that kills pythons?



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!
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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  22:54:22  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
fudge and double fudge (insert swears)
ive just looked up IBD and alot of the symptoms fit, so work can sod off she going vets tommorow.
im also really ****ed off with the local breeder i buy from, its seems like it comes from there as she keeps her pythons and boas on a racking system next to each other as i cant see were else its come from, which has put my whole collection at risk



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
6129 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  23:07:19  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I *think* from what I have read corns can carry it but it doens't effect them? All I know is that it takes ages for it to kill boas but effect pythons quickly. I am really sorry to hear that she is ill though, how long you had her? It may be worth contacting the breeder, I would hope that if it was IBD, that they would at least contact other people that they have sold to! In any case, good luck!



A very special super, duper thanks for K :3

Edited by - Sta~ple on 31/05/2012 23:07:42
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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  23:17:27  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
nah the last time i bought a snake off her it was infested with mites when i told her she just said and?
hence why i no longer have contact.
cool it didnt mention any thing about corns on what i read but from now on im double doseing on purell
as i have another royal and 2 hogg islands which apart from talula are my most prized possesions i luv my snakes to bits so im qiute annoyed by all this



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  23:30:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really hope its not IBD. I'll cross everything for you tomorrow that the vet can give you good news.

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky
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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  23:31:28  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
me too but it looks likely :(



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!
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Spreebok
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1135 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2012 :  00:16:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh god, the minute you typed 'upsidedown' IBD was the first thing that sprung to my mind. I really hope it's not :(
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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1504 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2012 :  00:18:37  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
rwally sorry to hear that wish u and snakie the best of luck. and maybe the rspca should be told of this breedersshe obviously breeding just to make money and not to take care abd so it as a passion


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2012 :  00:40:11  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
after buying many snakes off her some which came from lexcorn, which has been confirmed, most of them are very high quality (marley and bo are the offspring of snakes from lexcorn and are my prettiest by far)
but for 2 incidents in a row to happen like this i question the husbandry greatly seeming more and more likely she breeds for money
as she has recently sold 90% of her corn collection to sell high end royal morphs also dabbles with boas ect.. and the house has snakes in every room even the garage is converted to house reps



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!
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darrkang3l
Hatchling

United Kingdom
403 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2012 :  01:07:23  Show Profile  Visit darrkang3l's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i really hope it isn't IBD my corn recently died from very similar symptoms dehydration then corkscrewing when it tried to move.. i prey that she comes round and everything goes okay for you! keep us posted!

0.0.1 Corn Snakes (myst)
0.1.0 Leopard gecko (Meg)
0.1.0 Girlfriend. (Mel)
0.1.0 Staffy (molly)
1.1.0 Royal pythons
Wish list - Chinese water dragon, Tegu! Rainbow boa!

R.I.P Shayde
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
8403 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2012 :  01:13:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hoping the best for you, and really hope the rest of your collection is safe xx


0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
1.0.0 Ferret - Peanut R.I.P
0.1.0 Crestie - Fudge. Wish List - Pygmy hedgehog. Tropiocolotes
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3556 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2012 :  08:37:43  Show Profile  Click to see kdlang's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I really feel for you right now. I hope it isn't IBD but if it is, that the rest of your collection is ok. Please keep us posted.

4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire

www.support-dogs.org.uk
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ozziesmum
Yearling

United Kingdom
736 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2012 :  09:33:20  Show Profile  Send ozziesmum a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
So sorry for you and fingers crossed you get some better news when you go to the vets.

If the breeder is breeding to this extent is it not then being run as a business and could you maybe get legal advice on what action can be taken against this person.

Jane.



Oscar Black Lab, Saffron, Merlin and Mischief the cats, assorted fish, Rhubarb & Custard the corns, Tuppence the Tortoise, Tripod the Leopard Gecko.
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