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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3796 Posts

Posted - 28/05/2012 :  07:46:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If the shells feel hard you can put a sheet of kitchen towel (moist) over the top, I know a few breeders that do this close to pipping time to keep the shells soft. Good luck!

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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3065 Posts

Posted - 29/05/2012 :  20:00:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
still no sign vicki? my other egg hatched yesterday, a snow



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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 30/05/2012 :  11:54:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ive added loads of moisture to the verm and re buried them properly.
seems to have worked a little bit, but im still worried about the top eggs.
starting to feel like they may never hatch :(
day 70/71 today i think.

0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)

2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

Location: Ossett


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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1212 Posts

Posted - 30/05/2012 :  13:20:07  Show Profile  Click to see AcidicAngel's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by QueenVic

ive added loads of moisture to the verm and re buried them properly.
seems to have worked a little bit, but im still worried about the top eggs.
starting to feel like they may never hatch :(
day 70/71 today i think.



I do hope they hatch for you! I was hoping to get to the end of this thread and find you had babies.


Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
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Isoldael
Yearling

Netherlands
999 Posts

Posted - 30/05/2012 :  13:29:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No worries, it's not uncommon for eggs to take longer to hatch than 55 days. It's a long wait, but could take up to like 90!

1.0 anery stripe (Nash)
1.0 hypo pewter (Loki)
1.0 bloodred het amel, charcoal, hypo, stripe 50% phet anery, lavender (Kasumi)
0.1 grey background normal het amel (Saphira)
0.1 tessera het amel, anery, stripe (Lilith)
0.1 amel (Aurora)
0.1 hypo bloodred het anery, charcoal, stripe 50% phet amel, lavender (Mara)
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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  16:35:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ive pretty much lost all hope of them hatching now :(
I know I shouldnt, just have to be patient... but it feels like they're just not going to hatch.

I dont agree with cutting eggs really under any circumstance, but ive read about hatchlings losing their egg tooth prematurely and not being able to get out of the egg.
and the eggs were really hard for a couple of days til i noticed and fixed it..

I just dont know how you're meant to tell. I don't want them to be dying in the egg, but I dont want to cut them open when they're not ready to hatch.
not sure if i could even bring myself to cut open an egg :S

advice???

and has anyone cut them open?
does it kill them if they're not ready yet?

0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)

2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

Location: Ossett


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ashby_steve
Hatchling

United Kingdom
258 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  17:00:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
main danger i think is hurting the snake inside, you'd need a pretty sharp scalpel
and new snake skin i would imagine isn't as tough as normal.
its up to you, same as any risk i suppose, it can go one of two ways.

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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  17:23:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah thats something id be really worried about.
the egg i'd start with is really sunken in (has been for about 3 weeks now) and has a ridge running along the top around the dent.
I can candle that little area and see that there are still veins and there isn't a snake in that part, so thatd be where i'd do it.

Im just worried 'cos last year it took 61 days, and they are at the same temp as last time but they are on day 72/73.
I know it varies between clutches, but since they have been sunken in for 3 weeks, maybe longer, im starting to really worry.

I keep thinking perhaps they were meant to hatch when the eggs were really hard, but couldnt.


keep the advice coming!!

0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)

2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

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Mnementh
Yearling

United Kingdom
537 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  17:23:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How long have they gone now ?

Last year mine were pipping on exactly 60 days and all out by the 65th all 28 made it . This was at 81.3 degrees

I had a small clutch laid by another girl that went around 70 days at the same temp , I decided to cut the only viable egg open with a small pair of scissors , just a slit like they make themselves . Inside was a perfectly formed Blizzard , completely dead , just never made it out .

Posted at the same time , I see how long they have gone for now .

One last jump , that's all we have to take Holth .
Wearily the old queen gathered heself to spring ;
Moreta gratefully began her litany .
Black , blacker , blackest -
They went between .

Edited by - Mnementh on 31/05/2012 17:24:54
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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2012 :  17:31:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah and im incubating at 82-83F
I just wish i knew, cos i dont want to damage them if theyre not ready, but i dont want them to be dying because they cant get out.

0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)

2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

Location: Ossett


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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3065 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2012 :  12:03:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
still nothing vicki?



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Isoldael
Yearling

Netherlands
999 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2012 :  12:05:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Personally I'm not a fan of cutting eggs open - I wouldn't do so until they've gone longer than the longest known "natural" incubation period.

1.0 anery stripe (Nash)
1.0 hypo pewter (Loki)
1.0 bloodred het amel, charcoal, hypo, stripe 50% phet anery, lavender (Kasumi)
0.1 grey background normal het amel (Saphira)
0.1 tessera het amel, anery, stripe (Lilith)
0.1 amel (Aurora)
0.1 hypo bloodred het anery, charcoal, stripe 50% phet amel, lavender (Mara)
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Mnementh
Yearling

United Kingdom
537 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2012 :  12:34:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Isoldael

Personally I'm not a fan of cutting eggs open - I wouldn't do so until they've gone longer than the longest known "natural" incubation period.



That's like saying "how long is a piece of string" though , unless you knew the temps of those "natural" incubation periods :)

One last jump , that's all we have to take Holth .
Wearily the old queen gathered heself to spring ;
Moreta gratefully began her litany .
Black , blacker , blackest -
They went between .
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Isoldael
Yearling

Netherlands
999 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2012 :  12:40:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
By "natural" I mean from which hatchlings naturally hatched. You know, without cutting eggs open or doing other things to make them hatch faster. As 90 days is not uncommon I definitely wouldn't cut them before that time.

1.0 anery stripe (Nash)
1.0 hypo pewter (Loki)
1.0 bloodred het amel, charcoal, hypo, stripe 50% phet anery, lavender (Kasumi)
0.1 grey background normal het amel (Saphira)
0.1 tessera het amel, anery, stripe (Lilith)
0.1 amel (Aurora)
0.1 hypo bloodred het anery, charcoal, stripe 50% phet amel, lavender (Mara)
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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2012 :  12:47:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah i think ill wait a while any way.

But does any one know what happens if you do cut a small slit into an egg that isnt ready to hatch?
will it make it come out prematurely, or would the snake wait inside the egg.

Ive read about 'windowing' thats all, and it seems that it doesnt actually effect when the snake hatches, it just lets you monitor whats going on inside the egg.
seems a bit pointless, and impatient, but i cant candle the egg to see if there is any movement or anything.

How long do everyone elses eggs dent in for usually?

0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)

2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3065 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2012 :  12:52:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i think it can be between 3 and 14 days. but then the 18 eggs i've hatched this year didn't dent in at all.




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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2012 :  15:13:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thats why im so worried.
the top two eggs have been dented for over 3 weeks, coming up to 4 probably now.
and the bottom ones have been dented for a week or two.
The golf ball sized egg only dented inwards about 4 or 5 days ago, and i candled it and could see the snake moving.

its really just the top ones that im worried about..
What would you do? just wait or try putting a tiny slit in the one thats been dented longest?

I wouldnt try open up the egg or anything, more just an slit with a scalpel, so that if it does want to come out it'd be easier..

0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)

2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

Location: Ossett


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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3065 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2012 :  15:24:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
to be honest i've never had to do it. if it was me i'd wait a little bit longer. whats your humidity like?



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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2012 :  00:41:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It was at almost 100% before i had to move them..
seems to have dropped a bit since i moved but ive been adding more moisture and put a damp sheet of kitchen roll over the top of the eggs.

Why do you ask? does that effect how long they take to hatch?

0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)

2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

Location: Ossett


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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3065 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2012 :  08:07:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i was just checking, humidity can effect hatching but your humidity is fine so don't worry about that. hopefully something will happen for you soon



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