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Slither.Skaley.Springie
Snake Mite

USA
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Posted - 28/04/2012 :  17:12:58  Show Profile  Visit Slither.Skaley.Springie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Im not really familiar with the UK, so sorry if I offended you. We all have our own oppinions about feeding. My pet store owner told me that live mice have more nutriants than frozen. Though i dont know why the UK looks down upon feeding live mice. Mice cuase diseases.

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343guiltyspark
Hatchling

United Kingdom
451 Posts

Posted - 28/04/2012 :  17:15:09  Show Profile  Visit 343guiltyspark's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Feeding live mice can sometimes make a snake vicious


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Slither.Skaley.Springie
Snake Mite

USA
39 Posts

Posted - 28/04/2012 :  17:16:45  Show Profile  Visit Slither.Skaley.Springie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
But corns are docile. Ive only been bitten once, and it was because of stress.

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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 28/04/2012 :  17:17:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No offence, it's just things are different over here! :)

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Slither.Skaley.Springie
Snake Mite

USA
39 Posts

Posted - 28/04/2012 :  17:19:56  Show Profile  Visit Slither.Skaley.Springie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Appearently so hahaha, and none taken lol (:

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343guiltyspark
Hatchling

United Kingdom
451 Posts

Posted - 28/04/2012 :  17:25:41  Show Profile  Visit 343guiltyspark's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't be able to feed live mice to Voldemort anyway for three reasons.

1. Where would I keep them? I have two cats!

2. It would be too sad.

3. My snake would be a murderer!!!


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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3215 Posts

Posted - 28/04/2012 :  17:28:13  Show Profile  Click to see Donnie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think it is seen as more humane feeding frozen as I believe (please correct me if I am wrong) the mice are gassed to be killed and then frozen and putting a live mouse into an enclosed space with a snake can cause a lot of stress to the mouse and injury or death to the snake. I know things are different over the pond and I suppose it is what you are used to.

No offence taken and hopefully non given.

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Slither.Skaley.Springie
Snake Mite

USA
39 Posts

Posted - 28/04/2012 :  20:14:58  Show Profile  Visit Slither.Skaley.Springie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I completely understand how hard it would be for some people to feed live animals, but you just have to have an open mind. Just think to yourself, Snakes eat live animals in nature. Nature doesnt gas them, freeze them, then thaw and serve them. Glad I didnt offend you and no offence given (:

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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 28/04/2012 :  22:39:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes but nature doesnt keep them in a wooden mox at a constant temp and have big old humans looking in at them all the time. we keep snake, not in the wild but in our homes. i have an open mind on everything but our snakes are not wild animals, they are captive bred and do not need the danger of live feeding. the rodent can to endless amounts of damage to the snake. live feeding is purley done for our enjoyment and therfore we endanger our own snake for our own enjowment.


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adamasrc
Hatchling

United Kingdom
255 Posts

Posted - 28/04/2012 :  23:18:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just people with bloodlust and feel its cool to see their snake kill something..

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Slither.Skaley.Springie
Snake Mite

USA
39 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2012 :  18:41:51  Show Profile  Visit Slither.Skaley.Springie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Im pretty sure that I dont have blood lust adamasrc. I feed live because live have more protien and different things than after you freeze them. That, and frozen gets expensive.

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lupi lou
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3670 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2012 :  18:51:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
think the main issue here is that feeding live would violate the animal welfare act 2006.


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adamasrc
Hatchling

United Kingdom
255 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2012 :  19:10:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
slither, i know there are bonuses etc and reasons for doing it, just i always see teenagers that think its cool to do so.

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Slither.Skaley.Springie
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USA
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Posted - 01/05/2012 :  19:36:29  Show Profile  Visit Slither.Skaley.Springie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Your looking at a teen who does it so that my snake can be as healthy as possible. I dont sit there at watch them eat. The only thing I watch is if they get the mouse because I know mice can harm a snake if left in with a snake.

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adamasrc
Hatchling

United Kingdom
255 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2012 :  19:41:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well then, thank you. But you can't deny there are a lot of people that live feed as they enjoy watching their snake kill something

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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/05/2012 :  19:48:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
there is no proof that a snake that eats frozen and a snake that eats live are any different. it is cruel on the mouse to breed to kill. and everyone knows the costs invold when getting an animal so i fail to see the reason to live feed.


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Slither.Skaley.Springie
Snake Mite

USA
39 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2012 :  19:54:15  Show Profile  Visit Slither.Skaley.Springie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Your from UK lol Thats why.

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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/05/2012 :  19:59:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it makes no difference where i am from, its unnecessary what ever country you form or in.

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Slither.Skaley.Springie
Snake Mite

USA
39 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2012 :  20:01:44  Show Profile  Visit Slither.Skaley.Springie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In the wild, snakes eat live animals. It makes no difference if theyre in captivity.

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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2012 :  20:05:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and in the wild snake die from prey bites. i aim to keep my snakes a optimum health, which feeding them frozen is how to do it. i am not willing to risk the life of my snakes for the belief that a fresh mouse that could do harm or have any illness is better than a mouse reared perfectly for its purpose.

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0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
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