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PurpIeMonkey
Snake Mite

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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  11:12:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
can I use one stat to control my bulb and mat?? like plug a extension lead into the stat and have my mat and bulb on the extension??

Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  11:48:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would say no, because you would need a probe on the mat, and the temp near the bulb would vary too much. You would need a dimming stat for the bulb. I doubt it would work. I would suggest a matsat or pulse stat for the mat and a seperate dimming one for the bulb. If its for a corn one heat source should be enough x

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PurpIeMonkey
Snake Mite

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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  12:19:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah see what you mean think I've been bit silly, had my corn for over year now he was 2.5 yrs when I got him and has never had the matt on a stat :( so have turn off the matt and he'll have to just use the heat light till I can afford one
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danny
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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  12:20:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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PurpIeMonkey
Snake Mite

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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  12:24:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I no lol all the topics lately bout stats was making me wonder, always had one on my light dunno why never bothered with the matt :(
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danny
Hatchling

United Kingdom
369 Posts

Posted - 24/02/2012 :  12:27:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you have had it running for a year why are you now suddenly turning it of ? A mat is far more sufficient than a bulb. It's best stated yes but if you have had it fine for this Long why not leave it on till the weekend then get one if needs be then it won't be such a change for him/her ?

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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  12:37:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you buy one of these http://www.reptiles.swelluk.com/reptile-supplies/reptile-heating-equipment-414/thermostats-555/lucky-reptile-thermo-control-ii-12898.html you can use it to control your heat mat and have a light (not a heat lamp) on a timer as it has a built in timer for a seperate light. They are very accurate as well.

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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  12:45:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So you have a stat for your light? Would it be suitable for the mat or not (I think the light ones are different but I'm not sure)? If it is suitable you could just switch it to the mat if you wanted.

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PurpIeMonkey
Snake Mite

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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  12:46:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just turn the heat light on and off via the stat wen i get up in morning and go to bed at night
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PurpIeMonkey
Snake Mite

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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  12:49:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah i have a stat for my heat bulb (which im starting to think was a waste of money) only reason ive not though of using it is bulb and matt stats look different and then there is no stat on the bulb
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PurpIeMonkey
Snake Mite

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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  12:53:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by danny

If you have had it running for a year why are you now suddenly turning it of ? A mat is far more sufficient than a bulb. It's best stated yes but if you have had it fine for this Long why not leave it on till the weekend then get one if needs be then it won't be such a change for him/her ?

All the best
Danny


cus ive seen the pics of snakes burning there bellys on unstated matts and dont want that to happen. I've got a 100w exo terra daylight basking spot light is that not enough till i can afford a matt stat??
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  12:55:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Snakey will be fine with no mat for a coule of days, surrey pets online do a mat stat for 23 pounds including delivery x

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danny
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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  12:55:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's fine as it is to be honest, I assume the previous keeper had no stat on the mat either if it came as it is ? It really would be best not to just turn the
Mat off as snakes are one of the few reptiles that can feel heat from beneath them hence why they hang around them
A lot. A bulb really isn't enough by its self to heat he whole tank. If you are that worried don't use the light and put that stat on the
MAt, untill you get another. Personally I'd leave it as it is untill you get one if you do, bare in mind it's lived most of its life with the set up you got so u don't all of a sudden wana start fiddling with anything don't worry :)

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danny
Hatchling

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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  12:58:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bulbs are used more as a basking light from above for lizards etc. depends on your snakes behaveier where is it usually located does it bask out on a rock as such or stay curled up somewhere roaming around the floor ?

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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  13:09:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All reptiles can feel heat if its beneath them, and to the sides too, heat is heat. A bulb absolutely IS enough to heat a whole vivarium (even my 6X2 foot viv is heated by bulb). edit to add corn snakes dont really bask, the bulb heats the floor and surrounding decor and they will go to that area and warm themselves

The bulb will be fine during the day and in the average house overnight temps will be grand too with the light off. Corns are tough cookies and can drop down to about 18oC and still stay active. I think its the right thing to do to switch off the mat, it may be true that its been that way for years but what if the elderly mat was to fail, its a small risk but its a small and avoidable one. For a long time I used a bulb through the day, mat at night setup for my corn, now I just use a ceramic bulb which does all the jobs required in one go. But how I do it is one way of many to do things the important thing is that all heat sources are adequately controlled and monitored.

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danny
Hatchling

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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  13:18:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Would still make more sense to just put that stat on the mat! surely rather than only using the bulb exspecially if it's usually located around the mat area itself ? then it's not thinking huh where's my digesting place gone and then having to be out in the open to bask and be exposed to heat. Bdrogons don't feel heat from beneath them very well at all. I'd pick mat on stat over bulb on a stat then get a stat for the bulb but that's just my opinion :)

Don't you usally recommend to have a mat on a stat rather than a bulb infact thought that was a known fact that you would usally advice ?

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Edited by - danny on 24/02/2012 13:20:51
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PurpIeMonkey
Snake Mite

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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  13:45:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have this stat for bulb (top one) would it be ok for the matt
http://www.eurorep.net/habistat/dimming.htm

Edited by - PurpIeMonkey on 24/02/2012 13:46:20
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danny
Hatchling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  13:52:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A stat Is a stat really they all do the same thing, the only imporatant thing is the wattage which that is more than enough so just give it a go :)

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PurpIeMonkey
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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  14:00:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cool I'll use the stat on the matt then, does a 100w bulb need a stat on it or is it ok to run the bulb with out one??

p.s. thanks for the help
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danny
Hatchling

United Kingdom
369 Posts

Posted - 24/02/2012 :  14:05:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes a stat would be best for a bulb as it would get much hotter than the mat would. You could either leave it of untill you get a stat. or just swap the bulb for a normal house spot light, this won't produce as much heat infact no where near so it can be on all the time just to provide some light which they dont need but looks prettier for us to the eye :)

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Sta~ple
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Posted - 24/02/2012 :  14:52:05  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
No not all stats are the same! Bulb stats dim, mat stats go on and off in general and pulses can be used with anything. Unless your mat is a stupid size or you have multiple mats it won't work since the minimum wattage it needs is 40w.

I'd just leave that stat on the bulb and use the bulb then either decide if you want to heat with a mat and therefore buy another stat and maybe sell the bulb and simmer stat or just keep it on a bulb. Yes your bulb if used as a heating device does need a stat and it also needs a bulb guard.



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Edited by - Sta~ple on 24/02/2012 14:52:30
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