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chrisc
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 22/07/2011 : 16:03:55
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| just out of interest i was wondering is it possible to breed a rat snake with a corn snake? |
1.0.0 baird's rat snake, jeff 1.0.0 royal, derek 1.0.0 royal, frank 0.1.0 dog jenny 1.0.0 bull snake, ivan 0.1.0 bull snake, mavis 0.1.0 chilean rose, Bernadette 1.0.0 hognose, chuck 1.0.0 BCI, william
my youtube. http://www.youtube.com/user/pegrocks
facebook(mention the forum) http://www.facebook.com/?sk=nf#!/profile.php?id=623879643
to live is so startling it leaves little time for anything else |
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mkmattyk
banned
United Kingdom
837 Posts |
Posted - 22/07/2011 : 16:45:29
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| im not 100% sure and no dought that someone else would tell you but, i thought that is how you get creamcicle corns (not 100% sure though) |
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chrisc
Hatchling
United Kingdom
357 Posts |
Posted - 22/07/2011 : 17:03:52
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from what ive been reading you can breed them
this is supposedly a baird's rat x c corn
mmm possible breeding project next year |
1.0.0 baird's rat snake, jeff 1.0.0 royal, derek 1.0.0 royal, frank 0.1.0 dog jenny 1.0.0 bull snake, ivan 0.1.0 bull snake, mavis 0.1.0 chilean rose, Bernadette 1.0.0 hognose, chuck 1.0.0 BCI, william
my youtube. http://www.youtube.com/user/pegrocks
facebook(mention the forum) http://www.facebook.com/?sk=nf#!/profile.php?id=623879643
to live is so startling it leaves little time for anything else |
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mkmattyk
banned
United Kingdom
837 Posts |
Posted - 22/07/2011 : 17:29:31
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i think on the classifieds there someone from down south actually waiting for them to hatch, and wanting to sell them later on
ps chrisc your snake is gorgus wish i had one |
Edited by - mkmattyk on 22/07/2011 17:30:34 |
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chrisc
Hatchling
United Kingdom
357 Posts |
Posted - 22/07/2011 : 17:41:49
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any idea of the title in the classifieds?
if you mean the pic above its not mine, just a pic i found looking for rat x corn hybrids |
1.0.0 baird's rat snake, jeff 1.0.0 royal, derek 1.0.0 royal, frank 0.1.0 dog jenny 1.0.0 bull snake, ivan 0.1.0 bull snake, mavis 0.1.0 chilean rose, Bernadette 1.0.0 hognose, chuck 1.0.0 BCI, william
my youtube. http://www.youtube.com/user/pegrocks
facebook(mention the forum) http://www.facebook.com/?sk=nf#!/profile.php?id=623879643
to live is so startling it leaves little time for anything else |
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tarotpodge
Hatchling
433 Posts |
Posted - 22/07/2011 : 18:54:51
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i have a rat cross corn = creamsicle  |
2.0.3 Corns, Creamsicle(Phoenix), Ghost motley(Savanna), 2x carolina(Indiana+Severus), Amel stripe (Frazzle).
0.3.0 Dogs, Shar pei cross, Staff and Dalmation 0.3.0 Cats 2.0.0 Chinchillas 7.11.23 Tropical fish 1.0.0 Iguana |
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chrisc
Hatchling
United Kingdom
357 Posts |
Posted - 22/07/2011 : 18:57:04
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| do you know what type of rat its crossed with? |
1.0.0 baird's rat snake, jeff 1.0.0 royal, derek 1.0.0 royal, frank 0.1.0 dog jenny 1.0.0 bull snake, ivan 0.1.0 bull snake, mavis 0.1.0 chilean rose, Bernadette 1.0.0 hognose, chuck 1.0.0 BCI, william
my youtube. http://www.youtube.com/user/pegrocks
facebook(mention the forum) http://www.facebook.com/?sk=nf#!/profile.php?id=623879643
to live is so startling it leaves little time for anything else |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 22/07/2011 : 18:58:36
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| creamsicle = amel x great plains rat |
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tarotpodge
Hatchling
433 Posts |
Posted - 22/07/2011 : 19:03:21
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Originally posted by gmac
creamsicle = amel x great plains rat
Thanks gmac...i was unsure of which corn morph 
EDIT: correct me if im wrong but rootbeer corns are also a rat cross corn..... |
2.0.3 Corns, Creamsicle(Phoenix), Ghost motley(Savanna), 2x carolina(Indiana+Severus), Amel stripe (Frazzle).
0.3.0 Dogs, Shar pei cross, Staff and Dalmation 0.3.0 Cats 2.0.0 Chinchillas 7.11.23 Tropical fish 1.0.0 Iguana |
Edited by - tarotpodge on 22/07/2011 19:06:15 |
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chrisc
Hatchling
United Kingdom
357 Posts |
Posted - 22/07/2011 : 19:04:24
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| oh right. aint found many pics of bairds x corns yet |
1.0.0 baird's rat snake, jeff 1.0.0 royal, derek 1.0.0 royal, frank 0.1.0 dog jenny 1.0.0 bull snake, ivan 0.1.0 bull snake, mavis 0.1.0 chilean rose, Bernadette 1.0.0 hognose, chuck 1.0.0 BCI, william
my youtube. http://www.youtube.com/user/pegrocks
facebook(mention the forum) http://www.facebook.com/?sk=nf#!/profile.php?id=623879643
to live is so startling it leaves little time for anything else |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
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chrisc
Hatchling
United Kingdom
357 Posts |
Posted - 22/07/2011 : 19:18:26
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nice looking snake. will carry on doing reaserch before i decide what to do. i did read a bit about breeding and says i need to let the female hibernate before letting her breed, is this right?
also what time of year is corn/rat breeding season? |
1.0.0 baird's rat snake, jeff 1.0.0 royal, derek 1.0.0 royal, frank 0.1.0 dog jenny 1.0.0 bull snake, ivan 0.1.0 bull snake, mavis 0.1.0 chilean rose, Bernadette 1.0.0 hognose, chuck 1.0.0 BCI, william
my youtube. http://www.youtube.com/user/pegrocks
facebook(mention the forum) http://www.facebook.com/?sk=nf#!/profile.php?id=623879643
to live is so startling it leaves little time for anything else |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 22/07/2011 : 19:25:15
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Originally posted by tarotpodge
EDIT: correct me if im wrong but rootbeer corns are also a rat cross corn.....
they are yes is other morphs apart from amel x great plains |
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tarotpodge
Hatchling
433 Posts |
Posted - 22/07/2011 : 19:31:41
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| it was suggested one of my rescue babies is a rat cross corn (rootbeer) but not a definate ID... not that it makes any odds to me. |
2.0.3 Corns, Creamsicle(Phoenix), Ghost motley(Savanna), 2x carolina(Indiana+Severus), Amel stripe (Frazzle).
0.3.0 Dogs, Shar pei cross, Staff and Dalmation 0.3.0 Cats 2.0.0 Chinchillas 7.11.23 Tropical fish 1.0.0 Iguana |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 28/07/2011 : 22:24:17
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Originally posted by chrisc
from what ive been reading you can breed them
this is supposedly a baird's rat x c corn
mmm possible breeding project next year
thats not a rat cross, i think you will find thats a Lampro cross, the pattern is too variable to be ratsnake, and the colours are wrong!
Have a look and a google this:
Nelsons milk X thayeri Kingsnake
i think you will find that that is what your pictured snake is.
A Bairds x corn is grey and black, like an anery corn but with much narrower saddles, dont quote me but i get the impression that Bairds are naturally anery, all the crosses i have seen have been very anery in appearance. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 28/07/2011 : 22:28:15
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Just to Add, the thayers king is a variable pattern, so each baby is very different, breeding a variable into a corn can have some quite nice effects, for example is have a trio of metallics, they are corn x Durango mountain kings, and as such are variable, mine vary from very red to almost silver and red, pattern not so much, but colour for sure.
Just to add, this is a corn x bairds:
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Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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chrisc
Hatchling
United Kingdom
357 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2011 : 14:04:46
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| oh right, that pic was on google under bairds x corn. im liking the bairds x corn pic you posted, may have swayed my idea to breed them next year |
1.0.0 baird's rat snake, jeff 1.0.0 royal, derek 1.0.0 royal, frank 0.1.0 dog jenny 1.0.0 bull snake, ivan 0.1.0 bull snake, mavis 0.1.0 chilean rose, Bernadette 1.0.0 hognose, chuck 1.0.0 BCI, william
my youtube. http://www.youtube.com/user/pegrocks
facebook(mention the forum) http://www.facebook.com/?sk=nf#!/profile.php?id=623879643
to live is so startling it leaves little time for anything else |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2011 : 15:02:30
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| google doesnt always speak the truth! |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
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MrsA82
Yearling
United Kingdom
582 Posts |
Posted - 29/07/2011 : 21:50:14
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There you go
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0.1 Philodryas baroni
2.7 western hognose
3.7 royal pythons |
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chrisc
Hatchling
United Kingdom
357 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2011 : 19:43:13
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right then people ive been reaserching breeding and this is what ive got so far, if anyone can tell me anything ive missed or read wrong please let me know.
feed the female up a bit over the summer then let her brumate from december through to jan or feb stopping feeding 2 weeks before i start to lower the temps down to 55-60f checking snake and changing water weekly.
slowly warm her back up an start with smaller food at first then as much as she will take to fatten her up.
after she sheds shes ready to mate.
introduce her to the males viv and watch for mating signs (male chaseing and rubbing his chin along her back)
allow them to mate 3 times after mating feed her smaller food items every few days to build her up.
6 weeks is she will shed, then add nest box with spagnum moss.
once eggs have been laid remove and place in incubator without turning them and incubate for around 60 days at 82f
any of this sound right?
cheers |
1.0.0 baird's rat snake, jeff 1.0.0 royal, derek 1.0.0 royal, frank 0.1.0 dog jenny 1.0.0 bull snake, ivan 0.1.0 bull snake, mavis 0.1.0 chilean rose, Bernadette 1.0.0 hognose, chuck 1.0.0 BCI, william
my youtube. http://www.youtube.com/user/pegrocks
facebook(mention the forum) http://www.facebook.com/?sk=nf#!/profile.php?id=623879643
to live is so startling it leaves little time for anything else |
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rat vs corn
