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tallboy
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
43 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2011 :  20:59:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My year and a half old snake hasnt eaten for two weeks now, i dont know its sex but it has shed so its not due to now but when i offered a mouse last week it just ignored it and done same again this week it looks healthy and is moving around as usual???is it wanting to mate

lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2011 :  21:08:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
2 weeks is nothing to worry about, lots of snakes are off food this time of year. Just keep offering for a couple of weeks and if still not feeding save yourself some money and offer fortnightly. Another really important thing is regular weighing if it goes on longer than a month to monitor any weight loss.

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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/04/2011 :  22:05:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
2 weeks is nothing in snake time, have you changed anything in the viv or he may be coming upto a shed, theres always a few reasons snakes can go off foods.


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tallboy
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
43 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2011 :  07:31:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No it has not long shed and nothing has been changeed in the viv, it is being alot more active too i noticed in the last week or so, could it be because its feeling horny?
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5853 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2011 :  08:42:37  Show Profile  Click to see herriotfan's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
This is the time of year when lots of snakes go off food due to the breeding season so, yes, it could be that.


Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
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3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/04/2011 :  14:25:43  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
MUCH more info is needed really before putting it down to 'just the time of year'

http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15687

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

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tallboy
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
43 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2011 :  19:29:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
what sort of info would you like?
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2011 :  19:43:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a link in Gingerpony's reply, click it for a list of questions.

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

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tallboy
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
43 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2011 :  21:00:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well the snake is nearly 4 ft long and is 22 months old and i dont know the sex. Havent found any lumps on it anywhere the set up is a wooden viv with glass sliding doors at front, the temp is same as its always been- 23c-29c hot end and room temp cold end. I have moved a plant to a different place in viv but is still accessable to the snake. to answer your questions of more info needed. Hope this helps?
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2011 :  21:59:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is still more than likely due to the time of year. Just monitor the situation (mainly weight) and I'm sure this phase will pass and feeding will return soon enough.

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2011 :  22:04:31  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lotabob

It is still more than likely due to the time of year. Just monitor the situation (mainly weight) and I'm sure this phase will pass and feeding will return soon enough.

sorry lotabob i disagree........

quote:
Originally posted by tallboy

23c-29c hot end

quite a wild variation in temps for the warm end and enough to put a snake off feeding! how are you heating the viv and controlling the heat source?

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tallboy
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
43 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2011 :  22:14:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well its a heat mat under substrate with thermometer and the heat has never put him off eating before at same temp, and has never regurgitated which i know is sign they arnt warm enough to digest it, the coldest it gets is 23.4c and hottest is 29c, cant seem to get an exact set temp. It seems happy in past with same temps. the thermometer is a digital one with probe on substrate with heat mat sensor.It has digested meals before without issues.
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2011 :  22:20:09  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
but how is the heat source controlled?

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tallboy
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
43 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2011 :  22:35:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I said- with the heat mats own built in sensor, which has a setting which i set it to on a dial. Heat mats only keep heat to a certain range not to one temp in particular, if i set it higher it goes over 30c which is too hot so not doing that.
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/04/2011 :  22:43:30  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
the heatmat has a sensor and dial? what sort of heatmat is it as i've never come across one like that before but it sounds pretty good!

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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2011 :  22:52:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah I misread and thought that was temp gradient not the temp swing in the hot end though it may still be just the time of year it cant hurt to get that sorted out.
I use a 7 watt mat and a habistat mat-stat, both about as basic as you can get maybe £25 of kit and my temps don't even swing by 1 degree.
The thing to know with temperature is snakes need a good reliable heat source to help digest, it may be that the last feed it took the heat wasn't high enough and it struggled to digest its meal and is now holding off eating until it finds a more reliable heat source, your temperature may just be falling between digestion and regurge so its best to fix it to a more reliable method of heating and avoid the nightmare of regurge (and the smell, oh boy i'd do anything, spend any money to avoid ever smelling that smell again).

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2011 :  22:57:21  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lotabob

...the nightmare of regurge (and the smell, oh boy i'd do anything, spend any money to avoid ever smelling that smell again).


when people post asking 'is it poo or is it regurge?'
go by the smell


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tallboy
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
43 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2011 :  23:05:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok well the heat mat was what i got from the reptile shop i got snake from they did a package with snake of everything it needs it is reliable its called "microclimate" and heats up to 100 watts it has a dial where you adjust temp and a sensor which sits in viv on substrate and warms and cools to make temp say around same temp, it was above 25c when he last ate. The makers address is:

Microclimate international ltd,
unit 4 wombourne enterprise park,
wolverhampton, England
WV5 0AL
Tel:01902 895351
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2011 :  23:14:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If its swinging so far (23-29) then the stat is either faulty or your probe is not placed correctly. Even the most basic thermostat wil only move by a degree or 2. Is your probe touching the mat or is it on top of the substrate?

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky

Edited by - lotabob on 07/04/2011 23:14:39
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tallboy
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
43 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2011 :  23:39:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The probe is placed on top of substrate which is waht advice i was given on here, and was also told on here that the temp will flucktuate abit as heat mats dont stay at one temp, so i really am confused because everyone says a different temp which is healthy for Corns, so what should it be between????
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2011 :  23:41:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK put the probe directly onto the mat with the thermometer probe too and see where your temperatures really are. In a vivarium the probes need to be directly on the mat, in a faun or rub as close to the mat as the snake will get. you'll not find any advice other than that on here (possibly confused it with bulb stat probes, they sit on the substrate).

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky

Edited by - lotabob on 07/04/2011 23:44:22
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