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Yearling

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Posted - 30/03/2011 :  19:20:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hiya,

Sorry if this is a stupid question, it seems a few people on here have owned male corns that have turned out to be girls when they've been found laying eggs, can female corns lay eggs without being in contact with a male? Just wondered, Thanks



1.0.0 Carolina Motley Cornsnake - Vin, 0.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa - Rio, 0.1.0 IJJ Carpet Python - Luna, 0.1.0 Dwarf Sunfire Reticulated Python - Helia, 1.0.0 Royal Python - Jasper, 0.1.0 Spaniel - Jess; RIP Gypsy - a beautiful girl through and through, 0.1.0 Rabbit - Binky, RIP Indy, Jan 2010 - Aug 2011, and Ace, Jan 2009 - Aug 2011

Lixra
Hatchling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/03/2011 :  19:29:15  Show Profile  Click to see Lixra's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
They can lay infertile eggs I believe, but as far as I'm aware, there hasn't been a case of parthenogenesis with corn snakes.

I had a leopard gecko that did this to me one time, never bred her, and went off her feed, so took her to the vet and was told she was gravid. She ended up passing infertile eggs.

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Newbie
Yearling

950 Posts

Posted - 30/03/2011 :  19:35:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Lixra :-) just wondered and thought oh god what if Vin's not a he, but a she who might lay random infertile eggs and get eggbound! He's not been probed to determine sex, I just based it on tail taper. Having read recent posts, the reality of how risky breeding can be has scared me, and when I thought I might get infertile eggs unintentionally it worried me even more!



1.0.0 Carolina Motley Cornsnake - Vin, 0.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa - Rio, 0.1.0 IJJ Carpet Python - Luna, 0.1.0 Dwarf Sunfire Reticulated Python - Helia, 1.0.0 Royal Python - Jasper, 0.1.0 Spaniel - Jess; RIP Gypsy - a beautiful girl through and through, 0.1.0 Rabbit - Binky, RIP Indy, Jan 2010 - Aug 2011, and Ace, Jan 2009 - Aug 2011
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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5599 Posts

Posted - 30/03/2011 :  20:17:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep they can lay unfertile eggs,but not every snake will.
I unfortunately have a cockatiel that does this every year,very frustrating.
A lot of *male* corns that people have bought have ended up laying eggs as they were cohabited.


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Edited by - Kehhlyr on 31/03/2011 04:21:31
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 30/03/2011 :  20:35:03  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
it's easier to mis-sex a male corn than a female
i'd always recommend getting them popped or probed on several occasions and preferably by a couple of different (experienced and trusted!) people

the only way i'm 100% positive on sex is when they've laid eggs or been proven/bred

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matty18714
The Count of Corniness

United Kingdom
4428 Posts

Posted - 30/03/2011 :  20:38:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its not worth worrying about your snake potentially laying slugs, its either going to happen or its not. There is nothing you can do to prevent it apart from providing sub-standard conditions and messing with its photoperiod.

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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 31/03/2011 :  00:29:43  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
most of the time infertile eggs are absorbed by the snakes body before they fully develop so the calcium can be reused


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Newbie
Yearling

950 Posts

Posted - 31/03/2011 :  12:57:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I won't worry too much then! Not bothered about whether Vin is really male or female as he's not for breeding and won't be around other corns, when we got him the OH referred to him as him and that was it! Thanks for clearing that up for me :-)



1.0.0 Carolina Motley Cornsnake - Vin, 0.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa - Rio, 0.1.0 IJJ Carpet Python - Luna, 0.1.0 Dwarf Sunfire Reticulated Python - Helia, 1.0.0 Royal Python - Jasper, 0.1.0 Spaniel - Jess; RIP Gypsy - a beautiful girl through and through, 0.1.0 Rabbit - Binky, RIP Indy, Jan 2010 - Aug 2011, and Ace, Jan 2009 - Aug 2011
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