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dizzie85
Hatchling
United Kingdom
242 Posts |
 Posted - 02/03/2011 : 00:23:15
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I posted in general health,, about him being in blue for well over a few weeks now I think... (his eyes are glazed and have been for a couple of weeks but he's a snow so its my only clue.
The parents came today and as usual always take a peek at my weird and wonderful mini zoo, passing by Gollum my dad perked up he didnt look right. I've had this feeling for a while now but cant pinpoint why?
I've previously posted pictures with concerns I think he is underweight and people have said he looks fine,, even so I am sure he is and the pictures make him look healthier as you can see his backbone he very deffinately isnt round! I feed him every 2weeks with a medium mouse, he wont feed before that and will then only feed when left alone in viv.
To pick him up think OLD PERSON,,, his skin seems saggy and loose nothing like my other snake. I cant pinpoint it but I didnt think he was right and my dad coming today tellin me he looks ill further confirms my suspicions something is afoot.
As some may know I was meant to take him to a specialist but a huge unexpected bill came in and people on here said they thought he looked healthy with the pics I uploaded (opinin was he looked ok) I didnt take him. Its not my year because a second even bigger bill came in the other week so still not in a position to take him with just a gut feeling things arent right. (may be worrying over nothing)
For an adult snake he isnt very thick and looks out of proportion I think he I still maintain is underweight even so people who have viesd his pics disagree. I can If I absoloutely have to take him to see a specialist vet but dont want to take him just being over paranoid. |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 00:49:54
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| If it puts your mind at rest it may be worth it just to get him checked over, either by a vet or ask a local reptile shop if they wouldnt mind checking him over. |
Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.
MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky |
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5853 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 08:56:49
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| If he was mine and causing so much concern I'd take him to the vet. |
Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3556 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 09:36:11
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I'm in a similar position myself although I haven't had anyone tell me Izzy doesn't look well, I know somethings not right. I can't put my finger on it but he just isn't as normal. I have got him booked into the vets to put my mind at rest. It may be a waste of money and I may get laughed out of the vets but i just feel the need to get an expert opinion and know there isn't something hidden like parasites. I had a rabbit once that I put off seeing the vets with because I wasn't sure something was wrong or if that was just how it usually was (I had only had it a week). I just had a feeling something wasn't right. Unfortunately he died the night I had decided I was going to ring the vets the following day. Since then, I have always followed my gut instincts regardless if it turns out there was nothing wrong.
Follow your instincts hun, if you don't think he is right, get him checked. You know him better than anyone. |
4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire
www.support-dogs.org.uk |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 15:44:24
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| saggy skin is usually a sign of dehydration, bathing may help, but usually its a sign that something else is wrong, its well worth taking to a vet, even just for peace of mind. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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dizzie85
Hatchling
United Kingdom
242 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 17:50:31
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I think I'm going to have to aren't I. It's the only way I'm going to know for sure. Just noticed I think he is shedding,, one scale at a time! So out of my depth here! I knew I would be taking on something more than a healthy snake the way he came to me. He spends a lot of time in his water bowl on and off and seehim drinking regularly. Anyway heres some pics ... I dont think he is near as fat as the pictures show but gives you an idea of his shape at the moment.
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 18:06:56
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You don't want a round snake :/ that would be fat. Corns are ment to be kinda skinny...If your worried about his weight feed him a large every 2 weeks XD There is so many fat corns about and then if you look at royals you can easily think it's skinny.
If your gut says something is wrong though I would take him to a vet. You'll never feel happy until you go with your gut XD |
   
A very special super, duper thanks for K :3 |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 18:34:04
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I think I remember you said his eyes clouded over and from the look of him he looks a good size and shape but COULD have retained an entire shed. It looks like parts are coming away. Does he have lots of good scratchy bits in his viv?
I would be tempted to give him a moss box, and raise the humidity. I'd also give him a bath or a pillowcase playtime. |
Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.
MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky |
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dizzie85
Hatchling
United Kingdom
242 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 19:00:48
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People said he looked in good shape last time I uploaded, I really can't see it (then I am a girl and looks matter ;P.. Im going to take him to the vet for a once over and atleast then I know either way. All I see is a prominent backbone all the way down him! he is saggy to hold not firm and he is just so placid and not doing much ... I took lots of photos when I took them and he didnt really move position,he lifted his head up to get a better look but that was it. same goes with the feeding its like he casually happens upon it eventually... I havent tried him on a large mouse as I was told 1 and a half times him at his widest point. a medium mouse is that though I was infromed he was on large mice (but then I found a couple regurged or not eaten (hard to tell) in the viv when I got him which is why we have kept him on mediums.
I shall ring the vets in the morning and book him in for a checkup and who knows they may help with the shed if nothing else as Im dreading it!! |
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 19:12:40
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| Do you know how much he weighs? |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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dizzie85
Hatchling
United Kingdom
242 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 19:18:27
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| I've got no idea! Probably help a lot wouldnt it! ... Though unimaginative me cannot work out how or what sort of scales to buy for him. |
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 19:26:33
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| I use digital kitchen scales. I weigh an empty cereal box then I encourage them into the box and re-weigh it and subtract the weight of the box. The snakes don't seem to mind being in the box I think they quite like it actually. |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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dizzie85
Hatchling
United Kingdom
242 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 19:32:21
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| Will have to get myself some :). Wonder if I can catch the OH before he comes home and get him to nip to the supermarket :). His weight being my biggest concern if I can get that in perspective it would help me a lot! I know the sheds in the viv he came in were bits all over the place but not like scale by scale, it just seemed ripped in sections finding different sections all over the viv. |
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 19:38:20
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| Patrick was kept in poor conditions and his weight concerned me, you could see his backbone but when I weighed him I was really surpised to find that he weighed 577g at 5ft long not heavy but certainly not light! Unfortunatley he is loosing weight and is being treated for worms. Weighing would certainly help you get your head around things. |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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dizzie85
Hatchling
United Kingdom
242 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 20:03:53
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| The other half is in Tesco's as we speak just phoned me he's got some so will weigh him and take an accurate lengh as soon as he gets back. I have no idea what weight he is meant to be but we shall soon find out! Really hope your right and im just worrying (like mothers do lol). Now hoping he doesnt bite me trying to stuff him into a cereal box hehe! He never has yet but sort of grips against me on getting him out so given him a wide berth though note his eyes though still cloudy are not near as bluey as they were last night so some progress has to be going on?.. Just concerned why he looks like he is shedding scale at a time... weight first though will weight and post as soon as he gets back :). U guys are so helpful sometimes :).. Been trying to search google to no avail he doesnt seem to have the symptoms of the things they pick up on |
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 20:08:27
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| He will probably be quite willing to go into the ceral box, a small dark space, mine love it :) |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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dizzie85
Hatchling
United Kingdom
242 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 20:30:44
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| 367g in the box.... forgot to zero and he not planning on coming out of the box haha,, weighed a similar cereal box which is 64g so minus that off leaves him 303G.... that ok? he is around 4ft 2years old. |
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3556 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 20:32:27
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If not a cereal box then a shoe box will do. I use my plastic feeding tubs. just set the scales to zero with the box and lid on, lift the lid, pop snakie in and put the lid back on and then you will have the weight of your snake.
I usually weigh my smaller snakes every feed, and the bigger ones every 2 weeks - a month. It is always a good idea to keep records for each of your snakes with details of feeds, sheds, weight, length etc. I usually note down when mine poo as well although I have been pretty slack on this during the last couple of months and I am regretting it now that Izzy is not right and have no pooping records. |
4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire
www.support-dogs.org.uk |
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dizzie85
Hatchling
United Kingdom
242 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 20:38:44
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| he's 303g. (it doesnt mean anything as dnt no how much he should weigh) Now I have a starting weight and some digital scales I will keep monitor of their weights. I keep feed,shed and poop records though do notice sometimes gaps in my record keeping even so Im sure I did it (must be forgetting to save as sometimes as keep them all on the laptop. He liked the cereal box! he's still in it! So my next step for this evening would be to try a bath and get this shed off him? |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 21:07:23
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| I would say maybe a bit more weight might be good for a change? I know my 3ft 8 girl was about 280g when I thought she was skinny. I know hat you mean though, I thought she was skinny but in pictures she looked like she weighed more. |
A very special super, duper thanks for K :3 |
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dizzie85
Hatchling
United Kingdom
242 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 21:16:07
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I dont know exactly how long he is he was sold to me as 5ft but we agreed he very deffinately isnt 5ft, more 4 something (midway between 4+5).
It frustraes me taking pictures as he looks so good but then I can still see his backbone go all the way down and he is very deffinately tent shaped! his backbone protrudes in places which I can see in the pics clearly but everyone elses opinion is he looks good. It's a shame I dont know anyone local to look at him first hand so will have to be a vet. I will book him in tomorrow for a checkup. How to feed him up, he doesnt seem a keen feeder when I had him I found atleast 2 decomposing mice in the viv he came in they were large mice. I have purposely avoided large mice for that reason and a medium mouse seems a task to him anyway.. maybe a rat pup for the fat content? OR something different?. Either way I got get this shed off him somehow asap but dont want to hurt him, thinking of running him a bath in a bit and letting him have a good soak, he loves water so should be fine!!
EDIT_ Whilst writing the above reply... I have a shed!! WOOOO PROUD MUMMY AM I!!! in 2 pieces and bits missing but then he was flaking before and im missing the tail end but WOOOO IM HAPPY!!! |
Edited by - dizzie85 on 02/03/2011 21:26:32 |
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A visitor said my snake doesnt look well...
