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danny28490
Egg
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 21/02/2011 : 23:38:00
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When is the right time to rehouse a snake to a 2 foot viv from a exo terra large flat faun, snake is about 1 foot long about 7-8 months old and quite thin.
I'm looking to be able to move him into an LX24" viv as a faun just doesn't look as nice and i want to be able to display my snake to guests too.
Just to give an idea the size of tango:
I was thinking of maybe moving him into a 2 foot viv in 4-6 weeks time, any advice will be a big help.
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Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/02/2011 : 00:13:02
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General rule of thumb is the length of snake to be about the same as one long and one short side of the viv.
So ideally around the 2.5-3t (ish) mark to move into a larger viv.
Maybe go for the largest faun you can get or a little 12 inch tank for now. |
-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon
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CentricMalteser
Banned
United Kingdom
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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/02/2011 : 07:57:31
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Have you got the 2 foot viv yet? If not,what about getting a 3 foot viv and dividing it in half and then expanding the side he lives on till he's big enough for the whole viv.
My snakes are in a 3 foot by 1'5 foot viv split half way. One in one half,one in another and theres plenty of room. |
      
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Newbie 105
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/02/2011 : 09:32:03
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| Im going to make a viv out of a large old drawer as my corn seems to adore climbing !!! So its going to be thin tall and long my corns 17 inches like mango but im going to slowly build this viiv so it looks just like the jungle |
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Invalid User
Account Deactivated
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/02/2011 : 14:31:15
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Originally posted by CentricMalteser
Here is a pic of my set up for my 1ft 5ins
I bought this
http://www.justvivariums.co.uk/wooden-vivariums--2/vivexotic-vx24-wooden-vivarium-oak?variant_id=1642
Ring them up and place and order and normally get it following day, i had great service from these.
This will do until he is about 3ft - 4ft
If you put any cables inside for thermometre or heatmat, just before you put the lid on, just cut a small hole on the back edge at the top for the cables, nd then use aquarium sealant so seal the hole to prevent your snake escaping - leave to dry for 24 hours though as the smell is toxic until it is dried. I also use the aquarium sealant to stick the heat mat down (which is safe to do so) as it acts like a glue too.
http://www.reptiles.swelluk.com/reptile-supplies/vivariums-416/vivariums-572/geocel-aquarium-sealant-57981.html
IMO that viv is too big for your snake. It could be ok if there were loads more hides and lots of ground cover but that is a huge scary open space for a teeny little 1ft corn snake. |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/02/2011 : 17:11:35
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Originally posted by Louise32
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Originally posted by CentricMalteser
Here is a pic of my set up for my 1ft 5ins
I bought this
http://www.justvivariums.co.uk/wooden-vivariums--2/vivexotic-vx24-wooden-vivarium-oak?variant_id=1642
Ring them up and place and order and normally get it following day, i had great service from these.
This will do until he is about 3ft - 4ft
If you put any cables inside for thermometre or heatmat, just before you put the lid on, just cut a small hole on the back edge at the top for the cables, nd then use aquarium sealant so seal the hole to prevent your snake escaping - leave to dry for 24 hours though as the smell is toxic until it is dried. I also use the aquarium sealant to stick the heat mat down (which is safe to do so) as it acts like a glue too.
http://www.reptiles.swelluk.com/reptile-supplies/vivariums-416/vivariums-572/geocel-aquarium-sealant-57981.html
IMO that viv is too big for your snake. It could be ok if there were loads more hides and lots of ground cover but that is a huge scary open space for a teeny little 1ft corn snake.
Agree completely. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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danny28490
Egg
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/02/2011 : 17:42:34
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| that viv looks good and i'm planning on having alot of plants and hides in mine so it looks really nice and loads of hiding spots for my snake, will have to see what i'm gonna do. not made my mind up yet |
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CentricMalteser
Banned
United Kingdom
238 Posts |
Posted - 22/02/2011 : 17:46:25
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She;s actually foot and half long, and this was a pic taken prior to me filling it out completely which I have done earlier today!
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Originally posted by Louise32
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Originally posted by CentricMalteser
Here is a pic of my set up for my 1ft 5ins
I bought this
http://www.justvivariums.co.uk/wooden-vivariums--2/vivexotic-vx24-wooden-vivarium-oak?variant_id=1642
Ring them up and place and order and normally get it following day, i had great service from these.
This will do until he is about 3ft - 4ft
If you put any cables inside for thermometre or heatmat, just before you put the lid on, just cut a small hole on the back edge at the top for the cables, nd then use aquarium sealant so seal the hole to prevent your snake escaping - leave to dry for 24 hours though as the smell is toxic until it is dried. I also use the aquarium sealant to stick the heat mat down (which is safe to do so) as it acts like a glue too.
http://www.reptiles.swelluk.com/reptile-supplies/vivariums-416/vivariums-572/geocel-aquarium-sealant-57981.html
IMO that viv is too big for your snake. It could be ok if there were loads more hides and lots of ground cover but that is a huge scary open space for a teeny little 1ft corn snake.
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Invalid User
Account Deactivated
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/02/2011 : 17:51:31
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Originally posted by CentricMalteser
She;s actually foot and half long, and this was a pic taken prior to me filling it out completely which I have done earlier today!
Ah ok, well still pretty big for a 1.5 ft snake but if it's filled out more that should help. Would love to see some pics of how it looks now  |
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Invalid User
Account Deactivated
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/02/2011 : 17:54:16
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Originally posted by danny28490
that viv looks good and i'm planning on having alot of plants and hides in mine so it looks really nice and loads of hiding spots for my snake, will have to see what i'm gonna do. not made my mind up yet
A few of my snakes are 2 ft long and still doing fine in a rub the size of a large faunarium. I would wait a while before moving to a 2ft viv. |
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CentricMalteser
Banned
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/02/2011 : 00:09:04
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I'm doing bit by bit, so added vines today and tommrow adding couple more hides and fake plants on the base, just doing it slowly over few days so i dont stress Cecil out with too many "New" scents
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Originally posted by Louise32
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Originally posted by CentricMalteser
She;s actually foot and half long, and this was a pic taken prior to me filling it out completely which I have done earlier today!
Ah ok, well still pretty big for a 1.5 ft snake but if it's filled out more that should help. Would love to see some pics of how it looks now
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/02/2011 : 00:13:45
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Personally I think it is much better for the snake to get all the changes done quickly. The sooner its in what is to be its "normal" environment, the sooner it can get used to it.
Does a vet slowly insert a needle into a dog to not stress it too much, or does the vet do it quickly so it lasts a second. |
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CentricMalteser
Banned
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/02/2011 : 00:26:02
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just going off topic, i would like to apologise to my responses that i may have given you and Mike,
wasn't me being ignorant or arrogant, it's just I got the impression people think I haven't done my homework, and most of my questions are kind of reassurance more than anything else
back on to topic, didnt think of it like that so tommorow will make the final changes,
also from researching and asking various corn snake owners, they have advised me using a 2% UV tube is fine a) for daytime lighting, and b) the 2% uv helps with the skin in relation to helping it be vibrant etc,
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Originally posted by matty18714
Personally I think it is much better for the snake to get all the changes done quickly. The sooner its in what is to be its "normal" environment, the sooner it can get used to it.
Does a vet slowly insert a needle into a dog to not stress it too much, or does the vet do it quickly so it lasts a second.
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/02/2011 : 00:28:41
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| mine are nice and vibrant without UV, it is not necessary. If you do want to light your viv you can use an energy saver bulb. But if you do decide to put lighting in the light must be gaurded to stop your corn damaging itself. |
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/02/2011 : 00:33:03
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Not a problem pal, just make sure you take in what others are saying and form an educated opinion.
Using UV is fine, and I think that it must benefit the snake, though saying that I don't use them. Just make sure it is secure and out of reach of the snake. A lot of people say they flicker at a rate humans can't see but snakes can, and therefore its bad for them. No doubt that they flicker, however, it has never been confirmed to be that a snake can see it by an authoritative source. |
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CentricMalteser
Banned
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/02/2011 : 00:36:35
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My question then is, what lighting should I use for day AND/OR night, that wont give out heat as I have a heat mat in place which is with a thermostat and working well, readings on the thermomete are constant
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Originally posted by matty18714
Not a problem pal, just make sure you take in what others are saying and form an educated opinion.
Using UV is fine, and I think that it must benefit the snake, though saying that I don't use them. Just make sure it is secure and out of reach of the snake. A lot of people say they flicker at a rate humans can't see but snakes can, and therefore its bad for them. No doubt that they flicker, however, it has never been confirmed to be that a snake can see it by an authoritative source.
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/02/2011 : 00:37:58
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| UV is a source of vitamin D, thats why they get used. Corns have no need for extra Vit D due to diet. Lizards and others that need a UV need it because their diet isn't high enough in Vit D, or they simply need more than the diet can give them. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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CentricMalteser
Banned
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/02/2011 : 00:39:44
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so if i was using lighting for viewing as example, then what would be best type of lighting for day, and for the evening in the dark if i wante to have a quick check on her that wouldnt give out much heat if any?
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Originally posted by mikerichards
UV is a source of vitamin D, thats why they get used. Corns have no need for extra Vit D due to diet. Lizards and others that need a UV need it because their diet isn't high enough in Vit D, or they simply need more than the diet can give them.
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/02/2011 : 00:41:13
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| I always prefer to use no light at all. The ambient light in the room is more than enough to give the snake a natural photoperiod. If you want to use a light, as Gmac said, use a energy saving bulb with a guard. For night time, a lot of people say snakes can see red light, which again I have never had confirmed by an authoritative source. If its in the viv, it would also have to be guarded. |
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Invalid User
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/02/2011 : 00:46:14
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| I also don't use any lights for my corns. |
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when to rehouse?
