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 Posted - 26/10/2010 : 01:42:04
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| i have had my snake for almost 2 months he is about 4 and is 4.5ft he shed last on the 2-10-10 and had a really good shed it all come off in one i tried him with a few mice over a few weeks and he just wasnt interested so the shop said its prob cause he is still settling in ( even tho i brought the viv that he has always lived in but i suppose new owner and house ) on the 13-10-10 he ate 1 mouse and brought it back up 2 days later on the 25-10-10 he took a chick and still has kept it down i just wanted to ask what i should do to help him keep it down he has 2 hides one at each end , a heat mat and a light , and deep aspen bedding and he has loads of tunnels he has made all around his viv , its been so cold that the heat mat isnt keeping the viv warm enough but the light is i feed him in his viv but i put a big plasic tray in so him eating any aspen is not a problem , i just need advice on the best digestion conditions ! i think maybe last time it was a temp prob ? |
corneilious
1 male caramel corn snake
1 female carolina corn snake
1 female amel corn snake
1 male 1 female chinese praying mantis
1 male 1 female giant african millipedes
2 male 1 female madagascan hissing ****roaches
1 male cat
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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 26/10/2010 : 01:57:51
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What are the temps in the viv (both ends)
What are you measuring the temps with (obviously a thermometer, but what kind)
Where are you measuring the temps?
How deep is the aspen?
Is it wooden/glass viv?
Where is the heat mat situated? |
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Posted - 26/10/2010 : 02:08:18
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| right warm end 31 and cool end 28 , i got a digital thermometer it takes readings from both ends it has a sensor on it at the cool end then a sensor on a lead at the warm end and then a switch on the unit to change it from one reading to another its a wooden viv with glass sliding doors ( 3ft long by 1.5ft deep by 1.5ft high ) the heat mat is along the back wall and at the warm end so there is no heat mat in 1 /3 of the back wall to allow for the cool end to be cooler and the aspen in about 1.5 inch deep maybe 2 he seems to really like it in his tunnels he has made and he has 2 hides one at each end a huge water bowel and some fake plant stuff to give him more cover while he moves about ! |
corneilious
1 male caramel corn snake
1 female carolina corn snake
1 female amel corn snake
1 male 1 female chinese praying mantis
1 male 1 female giant african millipedes
2 male 1 female madagascan hissing ****roaches
1 male cat
lots of mantis babys ! :) |
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gingerpony
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Posted - 26/10/2010 : 08:52:59
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Originally posted by sarah0512
the heat mat is along the back wall
neither use nor ornament i'm afraid  it needs to be under a thin layer of substrate on the floor of the viv. where it is now he won't be able to get any heat from it to regulate his body temperature for him to digest his meal - probably the reason for the regurge.
do you have a thermostat to control the heat? too hot can also cause regurge as well as burns so a thermostat is an essential bit of kit. |
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Posted - 26/10/2010 : 17:57:10
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| the shop told me to put it on the back wall ! :( and the leaflet that came with it said to put it along the back wall but at the hot end ! its 31 at the warm end right now , i cant move the heatmat now cause he has eaten and is under the substrate at the warm end so would need to get him out and dont wanna handle him cause wont that make it happen again ???? what should i do ? he is under the aspen still in the same place he only moved once when i was out to where he is now so i hope he will stay there and digest if not should i move the heat mat and try again in 10-12 days ??????????? if he does digest it i will move the heat mat as soon as his 48 hrs have been up but might give him a lil longer cause it was 48 hours when he regured the last time and it was still lookin like a mouse i thought it would have been alot worse than what it was |
corneilious
1 male caramel corn snake
1 female carolina corn snake
1 female amel corn snake
1 male 1 female chinese praying mantis
1 male 1 female giant african millipedes
2 male 1 female madagascan hissing ****roaches
1 male cat
lots of mantis babys ! :) |
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Posted - 26/10/2010 : 17:59:47
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| i read that sticky before i made this post i cant belive they told me to put it on the back wall they said that they will burn if its on the floor but i do have a thermostat how deep should i make the aspen and what temp should i have it set at when its under the aspen ( on the stat ) ?? |
corneilious
1 male caramel corn snake
1 female carolina corn snake
1 female amel corn snake
1 male 1 female chinese praying mantis
1 male 1 female giant african millipedes
2 male 1 female madagascan hissing ****roaches
1 male cat
lots of mantis babys ! :) |
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mikerichards
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Posted - 26/10/2010 : 18:36:34
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their theory is sort of right, they are assuming that by putting the mat along the wall, its gonna heat the air up and make the ambient air temperature nice and warm for the snake. I say sort of right, because a heatmat wont heat air properly, its designed to heat what it touches, so thats the failure in the theory.
The aspen over the heatmat only want to be about 1/2 inch thick, bear in mind though that the snake will burrow down to the mat itself, so when you place the stat probe, make sure its in direct contact with the heatmat.
Corns, as with a lot of Ratsnakes will gather the heat they need from their belly, hence why bulbs and ceramics arent the right tools for the job, they work, but a heatmat is better.
leave it at least 48 hours from eating, especially if hes sensitive and regurges at any possible chance, once the lump has gone, then is a good time. If you have a hide that he can completely get into, then you can move that and hhim in one go, without disturbing him too much. Move your setup about, then just put him and the hide back in. |
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Posted - 26/10/2010 : 19:37:56
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right warm end 31 and cool end 28
That's very hot there sonny Jim in that cool end unless it's warm where you live, presuming that you mean in C? |
   
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Posted - 26/10/2010 : 20:09:21
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| yeah in c the shop told me to keep it at round 31C so i have what temp should i be keeping the warm end at in C , i live in the same place as you sta-ple in lincoln so its not been warm at all infact my flat has been quite cold ! |
corneilious
1 male caramel corn snake
1 female carolina corn snake
1 female amel corn snake
1 male 1 female chinese praying mantis
1 male 1 female giant african millipedes
2 male 1 female madagascan hissing ****roaches
1 male cat
lots of mantis babys ! :) |
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mikerichards
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Posted - 26/10/2010 : 20:43:58
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| ideally you want the warm end about 28 degrees C, the cold end will take care of itself. 31 is ok though, just not peramanently. |
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Posted - 31/10/2010 : 17:35:54
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Originally posted by mikerichards
ideally you want the warm end about 28 degrees C, the cold end will take care of itself. 31 is ok though, just not peramanently.
I was told 31 is the correct temperature for snakes? (I respond in this thread because my corn is also doing the 48 hour regurge thing OP) As far as I know, the temp has always been around 30-31 degrees c (it's how I've set my thermostat) in the viv, could this be one of the contributing factors to my problem? |
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SexyBear77
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Posted - 31/10/2010 : 17:52:08
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| I keep all mine at 27-29c for the hot end with the cool end just at room temperature. |
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sullysteve
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Posted - 31/10/2010 : 18:40:51
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| I just need to point out one very important thing about the regurge. My BRB suffered the same thing. All i did was move her off the water bowl so i could clean it. This was just 12 hours from feed. The regurge happened 5 days after feed. so even a slight handle can cause this among other things. But basically, you must not feed him for at least 2 weeks. This will allow him to rebuild the acids in order to avoid another regurge. I would also start with a smaller meal. Maybe you already fed him....:) |
   
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chrish
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Posted - 31/10/2010 : 18:41:51
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SexyBear77
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Posted - 31/10/2010 : 19:10:57
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I just need to point out one very important thing about the regurge. My BRB suffered the same thing. All i did was move her off the water bowl so i could clean it. This was just 12 hours from feed. The regurge happened 5 days after feed. so even a slight handle can cause this among other things. But basically, you must not feed him for at least 2 weeks. This will allow him to rebuild the acids in order to avoid another regurge. I would also start with a smaller meal. Maybe you already fed him....:)
I wouldn't be so sure that it was the handling that caused your BRB's regurge- 5 days after a feed is a very long time to go before it comes back up, especially if the handling was a mere 12 hours after. |
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Posted - 12/11/2010 : 22:50:14
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| he has since eaten a chick and kept it down :D i think it was just cause he wasnt settled in properly but i have tried giving him a brown mouse since and he aint interested has any1 else had probs with there snakes not eating mice that aint white ? |
corneilious
1 male caramel corn snake
1 female carolina corn snake
1 female amel corn snake
1 male 1 female chinese praying mantis
1 male 1 female giant african millipedes
2 male 1 female madagascan hissing ****roaches
1 male cat
lots of mantis babys ! :) |
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Posted - 12/11/2010 : 23:12:33
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yeah in c the shop told me to keep it at round 31C so i have what temp should i be keeping the warm end at in C , i live in the same place as you sta-ple in lincoln so its not been warm at all infact my flat has been quite cold !
Sorry just saw this! What shop was this? Sadly the rep shops in Lincoln aren't as great as in other places :( I am interested to hear what else they have told you too.
Are these mice you are getting from the same shop? I know a shop in Lincoln that feeds/tells people to feed to bigger food. It's not a completely bizaar thing about mouse colour either but he might be refusing the mouse for other reasons. |
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gingerpony
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 09:17:28
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I was told 31 is the correct temperature for snakes?
it might be for some snakes but certainly not for all!
for example, snakes indigenous to the UK aren't used to 31*C and would probably struggle being kept at that temp, snakes from Africa would tolerate it well though
the optimal temp varies from species to species |
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mikerichards
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 10:51:29
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| some of mine prefer white mice to any other colour. |
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Posted - 13/11/2010 : 13:19:44
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| it was in jc's sta-ple all the info i find online i always find something that goes against what another site / care sheet says so i go there to ask them but people have told me what they say is mostly totally wrong or they show me to do something the wrong way ! |
corneilious
1 male caramel corn snake
1 female carolina corn snake
1 female amel corn snake
1 male 1 female chinese praying mantis
1 male 1 female giant african millipedes
2 male 1 female madagascan hissing ****roaches
1 male cat
lots of mantis babys ! :) |
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my snake regurgitated its food
