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joetheimpaler
Egg
United Kingdom
84 Posts |
 Posted - 20/08/2010 : 09:24:14
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 im getting my first snake next week and ive got all of the equipment set up and ready except for a stat because my mum wont get me one because the pet shop owner said you dont need one but i know you do need one and i cant afford to buy one myself because im only 13 and everythings a big disaster... anyway can you please reply to this post to get through to my mum and prove a point, thank you in advance,
joetheimpaler
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1 dog-indie
3 cats-martha,meow and pippin,
1 corn snake -Topaz.
4 chickens - Psycho, Dutch, Alan and ownage
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Mouse
Yearling
United Kingdom
958 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 09:40:36
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It's one of the most important things to have.
Without a stat your snake could cook, as heatmats have been known to reach over 100C, and your corn snakey will need 30C on the hot end, max.
Please tell her that you need one ASAP, as the pet shop (as seems to be the usual unfortunately) doesn't have a clue what it's talking about.
You'll need a stat and also a thermometer. (preferably one that keeps a record of the highest and lowest temp it's got to)
A suggestion is to cable tie the stat probe and thermometer to the heat mat, as then you little snake can't move them off and potentially harm itself.
Good luck! |
 
1.0.0 - Gobo - Snow Corn (RIP)
0.1.0 - Sprockett - Normal/hypo/het snow Corn
2.0.0 Anery Hatchlings
0.1.0 Amel Hatchling
0.1.0 Normal Hatchling
*Location - Southampton, UK*
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BurnedAtTheStake
Yearling
United Kingdom
915 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 11:15:59
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You could try posting in the classified to see if anyone's got a secondhand stat to sell. A few weeks ago someone was selling a Habistat mat stat for £20 - it's sold now but there must be others about. Save you a bit of money, and your Mum might come round to the idea if you can get it cheaper.
Goood luck! |
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mikeyd_26
Yearling
United Kingdom
716 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 11:59:49
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its defo needed, becos high temps can be fatal, it can also affect food digestion and could possibly contribute to a snake not feeding and having a bad temperment when trying to handle. ebay is a good place to look and i think bluelizardreptiles.co.uk have sum sort of sale
on habistat mat stats sumthing like £23 inc postage |
   
0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies! |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
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elament
Yearling
United Kingdom
942 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 12:47:33
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| If ur mum wont buy you a stat I am afraid I wouldnt get the snake either. Stats are an ESSENTIAL piece of kit without it your snake could die. Sad as it is I have heard this soo many times about pet shops telling people they dont need one and for me this just highlights the problem that people with little or no knowledge can walk into a pet shop and walk out with an animal that is relying on your integrity for it to have as best a life as it can in captivity. This is bad enough when its a dog or a cat or even a rabbit but a snake relies on you for even the minimal enviroment issues such as heat which i am afraid needs regulation for them to perform vital functions such as digestion. If your Mum wont buy you a stat and basically all the other equipment you need then I wouldnt get the snake. There really is no case for cutting corners when it comes to an animals welfare. |
1.1.0 Amel Corns Colin and Xena
1.0.0 Dog Talan
1.1.0 Cats Wotsit and Willow
1.0.0 Ferret Chaos
Location: Lowestoft Suffolk |
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crazy JJ
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2326 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 12:59:28
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agreed with the others here :) but yeah try n get one second hand or something or search on the net im sure i found one as low as £14 t other day if that helps but cant remmeber 4 the life of me where :(
my local pet shop has only got one stat 4 sale at a time and they dont reccomend them :( dont reli sell bulb gurads either but then having said that i dont think they look after their animals prop either and i dont wana turn this into a rant so..
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2.5 corns 2.0 cali kings 1.0 tange hondo milk 1.0 apricot pueblan milk 1.0 royal (overgrown slug) 0.1 tarantula 1.0 chinchilla chico, 0.1 goldfish tigger 0.0.4 minows 0.2 cats fudge and porsha and 0.3.2 tarantula’s that are my mummys
r.i.p to the lil ones that i and mummy have lost recently |
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180 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 15:27:15
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ebay do them for about £24 delivered....cheapest i found anyhow.
its one of the most important bits of the set up.....pet shops say you dont need them just to get a sale. |
09 Amel Corn
West Mids
STU
Wishlist - Snow, Anery Lavender, Stripe of some sort, Diffused Caramel, Whiteout, Tessera.
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joetheimpaler
Egg
United Kingdom
84 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 15:42:28
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@ crazy jj and mouse: it was weird at this pet shop because the animals were loooked after properly (minus the stats)and the owner had some corn snakes of their own, im not sure whether the owner bred them or not though.
i had a look at some hatchies feeding there and they ate really well despite not having a stat - weird or what? |
1 dog-indie
3 cats-martha,meow and pippin,
1 corn snake -Topaz.
4 chickens - Psycho, Dutch, Alan and ownage
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NikkiLian
Egg
United Kingdom
94 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 22:36:27
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BlueLizardReptiles has a sale on at the minute, Habistat Mat Stat Thermostat £16.99 + £4.95 p&p. That's the cheapest i've found, even on Ebay.  |
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josh9961
Hatchling
United Kingdom
381 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 22:46:20
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| What rep shop do you use Joe? Cos I know one who don't use stats for their rubs, but their temps are always perfect and their hatchies all feed beautifully. |
2.3 Corn Snakes
0.1 Bci
1.0 Spur thighed Tortoise
0.0.15 Stick insects
0.0.1 Shield Mantis |
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sullysteve
Yearling
United Kingdom
507 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 22:51:13
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I'm supprised pet shop owners don't advise on stats, cos let's face it, if they sold a stat to every customer that buys a snake then they would make £££s more annually!
It's like buying a dog without taking it for it's injections!
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1.0 Corns Geoff (Ghost)
0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa - Heidi
1.1 Kings - Pete (Florida) + Mamba (Cali Stripe)
1.2 Ball Pythons (Pastel + Bumblebee + Normal)
Location : Warrington, Cheshire |
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josh9961
Hatchling
United Kingdom
381 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 23:04:02
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| I don't use stats for my rubs. I have a constant day temp of 29 degrees. At night I pull the rubs further off the mats. No temp problems at all. But I agree, once they're in a viv stats are a must. |
2.3 Corn Snakes
0.1 Bci
1.0 Spur thighed Tortoise
0.0.15 Stick insects
0.0.1 Shield Mantis |
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mikeyd_26
Yearling
United Kingdom
716 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 23:05:22
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honestly u need a stat without 1 a heat mats dangerous please listen to every ones advice there not saying these things to scare you.
Surely you dont want to put your snakes life at risk? |
0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies! |
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josh9961
Hatchling
United Kingdom
381 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 23:10:20
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| I check my temps every time I walk past my rubs and I've never gotten a temp over 31degreesC. I don't see how these mats can reach 100 degrees, when they don't even rise far past 30 |
2.3 Corn Snakes
0.1 Bci
1.0 Spur thighed Tortoise
0.0.15 Stick insects
0.0.1 Shield Mantis |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 23:14:05
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Originally posted by josh9961
I check my temps every time I walk past my rubs and I've never gotten a temp over 31degreesC. I don't see how these mats can reach 100 degrees, when they don't even rise far past 30
obviously you havent looked at the link i posted above, you need a stat end off, it really is that simple. |
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josh9961
Hatchling
United Kingdom
381 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 23:17:41
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| Gmac sorry for being a self righteous gentlemens dangly bit. To the rep shop! (tomorrow) |
2.3 Corn Snakes
0.1 Bci
1.0 Spur thighed Tortoise
0.0.15 Stick insects
0.0.1 Shield Mantis |
Edited by - Kehhlyr on 21/08/2010 01:41:42 |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 23:19:34
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quote:
Originally posted by josh9961
Gmac sorry for being a self righteous gentlemens dangly bit. To the rep shop! (tomorrow)
no need for apologies, cool you going to sort it |
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Edited by - Kehhlyr on 21/08/2010 01:42:02 |
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josh9961
Hatchling
United Kingdom
381 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 23:20:14
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| I mean they're all doing fine but I'd rather not risk it if there was a power surge or sonething |
2.3 Corn Snakes
0.1 Bci
1.0 Spur thighed Tortoise
0.0.15 Stick insects
0.0.1 Shield Mantis |
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mikeyd_26
Yearling
United Kingdom
716 Posts |
Posted - 20/08/2010 : 23:26:14
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| well all i can say is 99.9 percent of members will say a stat IS ESSENTIAL that many people can't be wrong. I'm only saying this thru concern and mean no offence |
0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies! |
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Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן
United Kingdom
8173 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 01:44:38
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I took the photos from the link that Gmac showed on the previous page.
That mat was a fully functioning mat (and still is in use), yet when unstat'd can become dangerously high temperatured.
Has anyone actually ever read the literature that comes with a mat???
/ninja edit
Shall save some time.
Clicky on the pic will bring you to a supersized version of the pic, what you're looking for is the yellow square right in the middle that has blue highlighted text inside.
I highlighted that text for a reason, it specifically says: "With species that have particular requirements....."
Can anyone tell me what the particular requirement is for cornsnakes???
What about Kingsnakes??
2 totally different temperatures are required for 2 apparently similar species.
Hence why it's possible to have 2 identical mats running in 2 identical vivs off one stat when it's only corns housed.
A corn and a king in identical vivs with identical mats would require individual stats, because the particular requirements that those species of snake need in terms of heat is different. |
-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon
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Edited by - Kehhlyr on 21/08/2010 02:08:08 |
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