Author |
Topic  |
mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
    
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 09:07:54
|
There are circumstances that can cause a mat to overheat, lack of air supply, ie being completely covered, I saw an experiment a while ago on rf.uk, the smallest mat reached over 200 degrees, and that was in a normal setup, just with the mat covered, there is plenty of evidence about that shows some really quite unpleasant burns on snakes, and in fact, there is one case that the mat caught fire, and then burnt down a purpose made reptile enclosure in someones garden, not only did they lose the whole building, but also something like 12k worth of snakes, a couple survived, but will be permanently scarred from melted plastic.
For the sake of 30 quid, would you prefer some almighty vets bills? Potentially the loss of the animal, and some severe grief from forum people?? Why take the risk??
I never used to use stats, I was the same as you, then I learnt. Now I have 12 stats (some twins), I even have 4 spares just incase.
Get a stat, the chance is not worth it. And whilst you are researching, research thermal blocking, that'll open your eyes! |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
|
 |
|
joetheimpaler
Egg

United Kingdom
84 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 09:10:47
|
quote: Originally posted by josh9961
What rep shop do you use Joe? Cos I know one who don't use stats for their rubs, but their temps are always perfect and their hatchies all feed beautifully.
its a little one in gisborough called jaspers pets |
1 dog-indie 3 cats-martha,meow and pippin, 1 corn snake -Topaz. 4 chickens - Psycho, Dutch, Alan and ownage
     |
 |
|
Stacii
Egg

80 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 20:44:55
|
i know your mum probably expects the shop to know best but i just wanted to say, just because your snake LOOKS ok in the plastic viv with no stat doesnt mean they are
my first snake died because of exsessive regurgitation caused by the heatmat being too warm (i too was a complete noob) and i had no stat.
she was fine when i brought her home and my "reptile specialist" (later found out to be money grabbing beeeeps) had said i had everything id need,( faunarium, aspen, water bowl & heatmat) so off i went and for the first few weeks she was fine but then she was regurging every meal and not drinking, at one point her water dish (metal) which was in the COLD end burnt me when i was doing water changes.
please think of your snake as others have said if the mat feels AT ALL warm to you then your snake will be BURNING but not necessarily visibly burning.
please dont let anything like the pictures above or my story happen to you.
i know we are all here to learn but when advice is given and you ignore it then people will be really reluctant to help when you have any further problems.
S xx |
Stacii xx
Casper - Ghost corn '10 Mist - Anery Corn - '07 Cherry - Normal Corn - '10 Amber - Amel Corn - '10 Willow - Normal Royal - '09 Star - Normal het Anery corn - '11
|
 |
|
josh9961
Hatchling
 
United Kingdom
381 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 20:56:49
|
Update: stat is installed and set up :) with a timer to turn it down at night |
 2.3 Corn Snakes 0.1 Bci 1.0 Spur thighed Tortoise 0.0.15 Stick insects 0.0.1 Shield Mantis |
 |
|
gmac
The Scottish Admin
    
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 20:58:04
|
nice one Josh, but corns dont really need a nightime temp drop. |

 |
 |
|
josh9961
Hatchling
 
United Kingdom
381 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 21:04:24
|
*Facepalm* |
 2.3 Corn Snakes 0.1 Bci 1.0 Spur thighed Tortoise 0.0.15 Stick insects 0.0.1 Shield Mantis |
 |
|
josh9961
Hatchling
 
United Kingdom
381 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 21:12:21
|
Oh and dangly bits? I typed four asterisks to allow for readers to insert their own :P I feel insulted! Haha |
 2.3 Corn Snakes 0.1 Bci 1.0 Spur thighed Tortoise 0.0.15 Stick insects 0.0.1 Shield Mantis |
 |
|
Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן
    
United Kingdom
8173 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 23:30:36
|
quote: Originally posted by josh9961
Oh and dangly bits? I typed four asterisks to allow for readers to insert their own :P I feel insulted! Haha
That was me.  I assumed it was the shorter 4 lettered word for gentlemans danglies. After seeing your comment, and Gmac's I thought I'd remove the stars and add a bit of comedic element to it, to show that no offence was taken. 
|
-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon
  |
Edited by - Kehhlyr on 21/08/2010 23:31:33 |
 |
|
BurnedAtTheStake
Yearling
  
United Kingdom
915 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 23:34:20
|
quote: Originally posted by Kehhlyr
quote: Originally posted by josh9961
Oh and dangly bits? I typed four asterisks to allow for readers to insert their own :P I feel insulted! Haha
That was me.  I assumed it was the shorter 4 lettered word for gentlemans danglies. After seeing your comment, and Gmac's I thought I'd remove the stars and add a bit of comedic element to it, to show that no offence was taken. 
That's the first time I've heard of the male genitalia being called comedic element.
(Though as a woman I've often thought it ....)
|
 |
|
josh9961
Hatchling
 
United Kingdom
381 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 23:42:06
|
How dare you BATS I have a good mind to draw an angry face on my comedic element just to express my disapproval  |
 2.3 Corn Snakes 0.1 Bci 1.0 Spur thighed Tortoise 0.0.15 Stick insects 0.0.1 Shield Mantis |
 |
|
BurnedAtTheStake
Yearling
  
United Kingdom
915 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2010 : 23:48:21
|
quote: Originally posted by josh9961
How dare you BATS I have a good mind to draw an angry face on my comedic element just to express my disapproval 
LOL!!!!! (Falls apart just picturing it!)
(Raucous feminist laughter ensues!) |
 |
|
josh9961
Hatchling
 
United Kingdom
381 Posts |
Posted - 22/08/2010 : 00:12:23
|
That's it! I have my green sharpie now! |
 2.3 Corn Snakes 0.1 Bci 1.0 Spur thighed Tortoise 0.0.15 Stick insects 0.0.1 Shield Mantis |
 |
|
josh9961
Hatchling
 
United Kingdom
381 Posts |
Posted - 22/08/2010 : 00:15:29
|
Hmmm in hindsight that was a bad idea. Especially with permanent marker *facepalms* |
 2.3 Corn Snakes 0.1 Bci 1.0 Spur thighed Tortoise 0.0.15 Stick insects 0.0.1 Shield Mantis |
 |
|
BurnedAtTheStake
Yearling
  
United Kingdom
915 Posts |
Posted - 22/08/2010 : 10:58:43
|
Well, hi, Josh, good morning, sorry to leave you dangling ... (OOPS - sorry, I'll rephrase that!)
Errm, where was I ... Ah yes, sorry to hear about the magic marker. You could always pretend it was St Patrick's day, I suppose...
Exit Bats, still cackling .... |
 |
|
Topic  |
|