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matty18714
The Count of Corniness
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 Posted - 21/08/2008 : 18:12:58
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/08/2008 : 18:37:20
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| Although I like cats I also believe the phrase 'Dogs have owners, cats have servants'. |
 
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Kazerella
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/08/2008 : 18:48:03
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What do snakes have then?
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Posted - 21/08/2008 : 19:01:39
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| I thought the egyptians were scared of cats? At least that's what the mummy has lead me to believe, hmmm maybe i shouldn't take things like that as gospel. |
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Kazerella
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
3093 Posts |
Posted - 21/08/2008 : 19:04:37
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They probably were, they worshipped them so would have feared them as well as honoured them.
Bit daft really, cats are pants! The crocodile god looks quite cool though |
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Posted - 21/08/2008 : 20:27:38
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I thought the egyptians were scared of cats? At least that's what the mummy has lead me to believe, hmmm maybe i shouldn't take things like that as gospel.
They were meant to be guards of the underworld or something ( also taken from the Mummy films) |
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Posted - 21/08/2008 : 20:29:08
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lol, don't get me wrong i wouldn't kill anything either, even spiders, as much as i really want to some times just to make them go away! cat's aren't that bad.. they only bring you these lovely gifts because they love you :P
Sorry when cats do this thay aint bringing you presents they are just finding a safe/quiet place to leave them until they want to eat them!!
I have a nasty cat that raids nests!!! and who likes to line dead mice down the back garden path!!! |
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Posted - 21/08/2008 : 20:29:55
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Although I like cats I also believe the phrase 'Dogs have owners, cats have servants'.
Thats right lol you dont own a cat they own you!!!!!! |
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Posted - 21/08/2008 : 20:30:27
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Finally, I think that amendment No. 99 is an attempt to exempt the feeding of live vertebrate prey to other animals; if I am mistaken I will end my comments there. This issue has been raised by some people. Most captive-bred carnivorous predators would accept meat or carcases as their diet. Some people have suggested to us that there may be occasions on which it is necessary to feed live vertebrates to predators—for example, when predatory animals refuse all alternatives. I understand that that specifically relates to the feeding of live rodents to snakes.
Although I understand that it may on rare occasions be considered necessary to feed a live vertebrate to a predator to encourage it to eat, the Government believe that the Bill provides the necessary balance for the courts to decide whether an offence of suffering or poor welfare has been committed. The practice of feeding animals in that way is not something that the Government wish to condone, and in fact I believe that it is extremely rare. But we would not wish to offer a blanket exemption to the practice, as it could be used as a loophole to cause suffering.
The offences in the Bill are drafted in such a way that where suffering is inflicted on a live vertebrate by feeding to a predator, the court can take that circumstance into account. It could be a ''legitimate purpose'' under subsection (3) or a circumstance to which the courts would have regard in determining whether reasonable steps were taken to meet the animal's welfare needs under clause 8(1). On that basis, I urge hon. Members not to press their amendments. |
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Posted - 21/08/2008 : 20:38:56
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it is not illegal to feed live prey in England? as long as all other methards have been tried and you do not cores unnecessary suffering
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/08/2008 : 20:41:26
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| There's a whole sticky thread about live feeding on the other place, there are guidlines to follow to ensure the live prey does not suffer unneccesarily, whilst also safeguarding the welfare of the snake. |
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Posted - 21/08/2008 : 20:51:26
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lol, don't get me wrong i wouldn't kill anything either, even spiders, as much as i really want to some times just to make them go away! cat's aren't that bad.. they only bring you these lovely gifts because they love you :P
Sorry when cats do this thay aint bringing you presents they are just finding a safe/quiet place to leave them until they want to eat them!!
I have a nasty cat that raids nests!!! and who likes to line dead mice down the back garden path!!!
Well that'll teach me to believe everything i'm told, i stand corrected. So really there is just no excuse for their mean mouse and bird assasinations! |
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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 21/08/2008 : 20:54:28
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Thats right lol you dont own a cat they own you!!!!!!
I've always thought that cats see us pitiful humans as warm blooded furniture. |
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Posted - 21/08/2008 : 20:59:41
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While UK snake keepers do not condone the feeding of live vertebrates to snakes, there are rare occasions especially with hatchlings and newly captive specimens where only a live vertebrate will be accepted as food. This always leaves the keeper with the dilemma of either feeding live or allowing the snake to starve to death. As far as Ark Group can determine, this practice is currently legal so long as not practised in a public place. There has always been confusion over the legality of this practice as no regulation directly relating to this has ever been decreed. Many millions of rodents are destroyed every year by break back traps and poison, compared to these methods the kill by a snake is swift and efficient.
Ark Group would like to see Defra clarify the situation regarding the feeding of live vertebrates to other vertebrates when no alternative exists, setting out clear indications of the circumstances under which this practice can legally take place. |
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Posted - 21/08/2008 : 21:18:14
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Originally posted by Peanuts
lol, don't get me wrong i wouldn't kill anything either, even spiders, as much as i really want to some times just to make them go away! cat's aren't that bad.. they only bring you these lovely gifts because they love you :P
Sorry when cats do this thay aint bringing you presents they are just finding a safe/quiet place to leave them until they want to eat them!!
I have a nasty cat that raids nests!!! and who likes to line dead mice down the back garden path!!!
Well that'll teach me to believe everything i'm told, i stand corrected. So really there is just no excuse for their mean mouse and bird assasinations!
Nope they are just evil lol |
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Posted - 21/08/2008 : 21:19:28
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Thats right lol you dont own a cat they own you!!!!!!
I've always thought that cats see us pitiful humans as warm blooded furniture.
That as well ha ha our cat is a tart it goes to at least 6 other houses i know of to be fed!!!! one of our neighbours buys it Tuna steaks!!!!! |
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Ell
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/08/2008 : 11:09:11
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| Im guessing the main issue (besides mousey suffering etc) is that once on live its usually all they will take. This is an issue when the mice needed re adult size and can cause serious harm to the snake with its teeth. |
 
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0.1.0 Harlequin Crested Gecko - Stickles
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saddleninja
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1400 Posts |
Posted - 22/08/2008 : 19:00:32
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| my neighbours cat kept crapping in my garden so i squirted if with jiff lemon, now it stays away |
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Posted - 23/08/2008 : 09:27:27
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| ok so i have a 08 corn that has not eaten for 6 week tried all else so if i don't feed live i let it starve to death? what would it do in the wild wight for some one to come force feed? or eat live |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/08/2008 : 09:44:22
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| where are you? if you're yorkshire based I could take it for a few weeks to try and get it going or come over to you to try an assist feed |
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