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Posted - 13/03/2009 : 19:51:56
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Hello :) basically jaffa still hasnt shed.... we've had him since november or october time... his colour is dulled a little but nothing much, and eyes still bright and cheerful. hes perfectly fine, very active, feeding well, and loves a cuddle... but just dont know how often they are meant to shed so thought i'd check.
Also.... my partner, Giles is somewhat of a scardey cat. Orginally he was the noe that wanted a snake, but actually ive become rather attached to jaff and giles is scared of him. lol. he wont hold him, flinches anytime jaff head towards him.... how can he overcome this. needless to say Jaffa doesnt really like him as hes very nervous and flinchy and i supppose jaffa doesnt feel safe... whereas with me he snuggles up with me in my jumper pocket. lol.
any ideas would be fab :)
3rdly.. look at my new banner.. thats jaffa today :) |
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Posted - 13/03/2009 : 20:03:44
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his colour has dulled a hell of a lot actually... i hadnt realised what id written. lol. its gone from bright orange and almost red to kinda light dull orange.. not as light as my banner shows, that is just my camera and quality of image but still lighter than he used to be. |
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Posted - 13/03/2009 : 20:36:13
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not really sure about the shedding, but as for your partner being scared of snakes, i know how he feels, as i used to be scared of snakes. my girlfriend used to tell me she always wanted a snake and when a reptile shop opened near us we went along to have a look an decided is was time, so i did most of the research on corn snakes, before she bought one. when we decided that we had a good amount of knowlegde on them, we set off for the reptile shop. she was holding them to try and decide which one she wanted and the girl in the shop handed me a snake, my girlfriend said i went pale and my face dropped, but after a while i felt comfortable with it, and decided that was the one we should get, but she had her heart set on another one, so in the end got 2
i felt that i was scared of the unknown (so to speak). the research helped me overcome my fear alot and so did being handed the snake in the shop.
i now love snakes and would love to get more
so i guess if he doesnt really know much about them, try and get him to find out more and hopefully he will realise there is nothing to fear. knowing that a corn snake bite didnt hurt that much also helped
hope this helps sorry its so long lol |
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Posted - 14/03/2009 : 09:21:58
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On the side of the box my snake was deliverd in it said do not crush, contains HARMLESS reptiles :) i think the says it all. Im not sure how often they shed but it sounds like Jaffa is nearly ready, have you got anything for him to rub him self on to break the skin so he can start shedding? and does he have a bath in his vivarium? If he has these things you will have to wait for a more experianced owner to comment. |
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hillzi
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Posted - 14/03/2009 : 09:55:15
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depends on the snake really, how much they grow of one feed. Mine shed every 4-5 weeks considering they get 2 pinkies each a week. Jaffa lol I can see why you named him that good name great snake :) Mine are due shed anytime soon as they havent had one for a while... He may turn out a carolina, judgind by the colour turn.
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Posted - 14/03/2009 : 10:41:54
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quote: Originally posted by hillzi
depends on the snake really, how much they grow of one feed. Mine shed every 4-5 weeks considering they get 2 pinkies each a week. Jaffa lol I can see why you named him that good name great snake :) Mine are due shed anytime soon as they havent had one for a while... He may turn out a carolina, judgind by the colour turn.
HTH
how would you know they are due to shed?? you cant possibley say that untill they go into the blue phase, it depends on how much they grow, and as they get older they shed less frequently
he may turn out carolina? whats that about? they are what they are from birth, they cant change morph! thats just ridiculous!
as for your pic, i think thats cruel the way you are holdin your snake, it should be supported! how would you like to be grabbed by your leg and held upside down, im sure you wouldnt feel comfortable!
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Posted - 14/03/2009 : 13:56:53
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i thought you meant me then. lol. i was thinking... jaff is supported... lol. yea he has branches and he does have a bath in his water bowl eery so often... he's on a small mouse once a week, and has a distinct bulge afterwards. i'll give him a bit longer as he has gone dull and i presume hes saving himself for a big shed, but other than branches is there anything else i can put in to encourage him?? hes about 2 foot long (ish) at the moment... and hasnt grown that much since purchase so im guessing it becuase he hasnt grown too much that he hasnt shed. lol. oh well, jaff takes him time about things!!
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hillzi
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Posted - 14/03/2009 : 17:47:18
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how would you know they are due to shed?? you cant possibley say that untill they go into the blue phase, it depends on how much they grow, and as they get older they shed less frequently
he may turn out carolina? whats that about? they are what they are from birth, they cant change morph! thats just ridiculous!
as for your pic, i think thats cruel the way you are holdin your snake, it should be supported! how would you like to be grabbed by your leg and held upside down, im sure you wouldnt feel comfortable!
they shed on a cycle every 3-4 weeks. Yes babies are born with really funky colours you can't really determine morphs from when they hatch instantly as he colours dim and get darker. Well only good pic i could get as i haven't got a digicam. but the snake actually wriggled under my hand.... |
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Posted - 14/03/2009 : 17:56:49
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quote: Originally posted by mickey22
how would you know they are due to shed?? you cant possibley say that untill they go into the blue phase, it depends on how much they grow, and as they get older they shed less frequently
he may turn out carolina? whats that about? they are what they are from birth, they cant change morph! thats just ridiculous!
as for your pic, i think thats cruel the way you are holdin your snake, it should be supported! how would you like to be grabbed by your leg and held upside down, im sure you wouldnt feel comfortable!
Whoah! since when did this place turn into RFUK?
I think he meant, that hatchlings generally shed every 4-6 weeks (slowing as they get older), so you can generally time their sheds.
The colour of corns changes drastically when they reach adult-hood, but no, you're right they can't change morphs
And you can't see where he has hold of the snake, it might only look like it's near the base of the tail. I'm not saying you should hold them like that all the time, but the snake obviously wriggled into that position as he was taking the pic - there was no need to personally attack him without knowing the full facts. |
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hillzi
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Posted - 14/03/2009 : 17:59:54
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yeah thanks neil. I didnt say they changed morphs what I meant was; They become clearer as colours change |
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Posted - 14/03/2009 : 18:58:32
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Deary me.
I guess it depends if you usually keep a diary. Diaries are amazing when it comes to keeping snakes. They allow you to predict when your snake may be due a shed (mine are like clockwork) and their average growth etc. Although holding a snake by the tip of the tail may look cruel I see snakes hanging off branches, rocks, vivs, people with their tail tip all the time. Holding a snake by the tail is a great way to assess its condition as if it can climb its way back up it means its nice and healthy. Corn snakes can change in colour a lot as they grow, for example my snow corn just erupted in yellows. Its quite difficult to tell whether a "normal" corn is a carolina, okeetee etc when they are hatchlings as usually the colours don't come out until they are older.
Apologies this post went completely off topic Aly-Jaffa. My partner won't hold my snakes either although he doesn't mind them so much. Maybe try getting him to stroke them first? As for the shedding, don't worry about it too much. If hes happy, healthy and eating he will shed in his own time ^^ |
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hillzi
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Posted - 14/03/2009 : 19:12:11
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the funny thing is, not at you Ell but mickey; I wasn't holding him by the tail tip. He's about 13" and he has about 2" of body he's hanging with. Beleive me mickey you think i'd hang my snake!?! trust me i had a good grip on him but not tight enough as to crush him what do you think I am? |
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Posted - 17/03/2009 : 13:00:49
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ok.... well thanks for the advice guys.. Jaff is definetly happy in the skin he's in, no problems at all, so i'll just let him ride it out as he goes! Thinking of getting another corn soon, they;re addictive!!, i want a motley.. not sure on colour yet.. although i have to say the aztec pattern that Mancunian has, he is beautiful!!! are they difficult to get hold of? |
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Posted - 17/03/2009 : 13:16:05
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haha i think we have two enemies on here. guy seriosuly, go to the dark side if you're both gonna behave like stroppy teenagers |
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Posted - 17/03/2009 : 19:49:45
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Amen PunkAs.
As for the original reason for this topic -
Shedding can take longer than other times, I personally put some damp spagnum (sp?) moss in his cold hide when he's coming into shed and leave him alone for the duration, just occasionally checking to see if he has shed/cleared/got any bluer. Don't worry, when he's ready, he will shed.
As for the scared OH, my fiancee is terrible with my two, I had my Royal out with me on the sofa the other day, and he looked at her and she freaked out. IMO the way forward is to just invite him/her (in your case him) to come and watch you feed etc and let him watch when you handle Jaffa so he knows that he isn't likely to get bit.
After all that he might just never become comfortable with them, my OH still is no good after like 6 or 7 months or so, it just doesn't worry me anymore.
Oh and just a thought - may sound ridiculous, but get your OH to don some marigolds - worked wonders when I first got snakes and was a bit flinchy. |
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Posted - 17/03/2009 : 20:27:06
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aly - slap him in the face and tell him to man up :P |
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Posted - 18/03/2009 : 23:36:24
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quote: Originally posted by PunkAsF82
...i think we have two enemies on here. guy seriosuly, go to the dark side if you're both gonna behave like stroppy teenagers
quote: Originally posted by neil
Whoah! since when did this place turn into RFUK?
Since i've never partaken the usage of *either* of the above sites, I cannot comment on how things are handled on there, but on here we like to keep things friendly. We always have, and always will.
neil and PunkasF82, thank you for letting people know that they may have been getting out of hand.
Lets keep this forum nice guys, thanks. |
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Posted - 20/03/2009 : 16:08:14
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Well said Kehhlyr!!! |
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Posted - 20/03/2009 : 21:09:56
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lol down boys. |
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Posted - 20/03/2009 : 21:21:59
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Just to pick up on a couple of points for the OP, as has been said, shedding frequency will depend on age/growth and there's no way that it can be a Carolina as it has red eyes and no black markings so it must have Albino in it somewhere. |
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Posted - 24/03/2009 : 11:53:50
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no he's defo a sunissed amel then hes having a good day, hes just revving himself up for a good old shed!!! lol. but hes taking his time, which i suppose is a good thing... hes not uncomfy or anything, so im leaving him to it. |
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