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hillzi
The Lost boy.
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 Posted - 14/03/2009 : 09:57:22
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Ok so I'm just wondering.. how much force does a snake exert when its adult and tags an adult rat?
Need to keep this in mind for mine when they get bigger 
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Posted - 14/03/2009 : 11:31:42
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dont think any one can answer that!
its enough force to squeeze all the air out of its prey and possibley break a few bones!!
not sure it would be enough to hurt a human though
how old is your snake?
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/03/2009 : 12:05:21
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I cant tell you a number, but its more than people think. If an large adult constricted around your neck, I think it could kill you if left to do so, but you would be able to pull it off (very unlikly to happen).
Also rats arnt needed to feed corns. |
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hillzi
The Lost boy.
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/03/2009 : 17:49:26
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no i mean how hard does it hit the mouse on strike?
Yeah had my corn about 2 years, but he hasn't grown that much, just a slow grower.
Recent ish before latest fed. about a week old pic. |
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Ell
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/03/2009 : 19:01:16
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| Its difficult to say without an experiment. Ive seen some TV shows with vipers measure the force but I cant remeber off my head what the figure was, sorry. |
 
1.0.0 Normal corn snake - Dusk
0.1.0 Strawberry Snow Stripe corn snake - Dawn
0.1.0 Harlequin Crested Gecko - Stickles
1.0.0 Sable Syrian Hamster - CoCo
0.1.0 Hognose snake - Truffles |
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hillzi
The Lost boy.
United Kingdom
3984 Posts |
Posted - 14/03/2009 : 19:29:55
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that's ok. just wondering is all. as i saw videos of... someone on here's adult corn i think its heatseekers; i thought hmm would he rip the mouse of of the tongs, but thats when he snake would coil back.
confused. :s |
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/03/2009 : 20:31:16
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| They dont really hit it very hard because they arnt trying to push the prey away from them. Once they have struck and have a grip on the mouse, they pull it back towards them. |
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hillzi
The Lost boy.
United Kingdom
3984 Posts |
Posted - 14/03/2009 : 20:33:44
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Yeah. okay then heres another one
How about how fast is a strike?
It's really interesting I think  |
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Janos
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/03/2009 : 17:42:59
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Hm, thing is, my flatmate is a media student, and he's gonna get hold of a high frame rate video camera and gonna tape Astra next time she feeds..
I'll put it up on youtube if anyones interested, but that might shed some light on the subject. It might be a while though, my snakes in the blue. |
1.0.0 Normal Royal Python - Ozzy
0.1.0 Anerythristic Corn Snake - Astra
0.1.0 Leopard Gecko - Zilly
0.0.1. - Sinaloan's Milksnake, Harley
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heatseeker872591
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/03/2009 : 13:12:22
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Originally posted by hillzi
that's ok. just wondering is all. as i saw videos of... someone on here's adult corn i think its heatseekers; i thought hmm would he rip the mouse of of the tongs, but thats when he snake would coil back.
confused. :s
nah my corn snake is no adult, hes only 2 years old and still under 4 feet long, may look big in my videos but i have seen and handled adults and they are giants compared to him. |
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/03/2009 : 06:13:32
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lee2308
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/03/2009 : 11:44:15
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Originally posted by Blackecho
Tiedied, lets keep on topic or at least friendly.
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Posted - 22/03/2009 : 16:09:38
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| Apparently corns don't constrict to crush, only to suffocate and hold onto prey to stop it moving and get there gob over it's head. |
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness
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Posted - 22/03/2009 : 16:45:54
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Apparently corns don't constrict to crush, only to suffocate and hold onto prey to stop it moving and get there gob over it's head.
Thats true. No snake intends to brake bones, it just ends up that way sometimes. |
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hillzi
The Lost boy.
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/03/2009 : 19:27:43
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No once mine contricted and the mouse split in half :/
Well i was wriggling it mentally and it was a nice view of pinkie guts
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Posted - 23/03/2009 : 15:16:30
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Originally posted by hillzi
Ok so I'm just wondering.. how much force does a snake exert when its adult and tags an adult rat?
Need to keep this in mind for mine when they get bigger
Ok, here comes a bit of science babble
The equasion for working out how much something has worked is (where Work=W, Distance=D and Force=F) W=F*D.Therefore working out force would be F=W/D. As we need to know the work first to do this, and to know the work we need the force, we cant work out the force yet.
We can, however, work out the speed of the strike. The equasion (where Speed=S, Distance=D and Time=T) is S=D/T. At a distance of about 8cm, Maurice took 0.98 seconds to reach the mouse (He is not fully grown, but I will use him as an example). So puting that into the equasion makes S=8/0.98. This means he travled at 8.16cm/S.
Now we can work out the acceleration of the snake. The equasion is (where Acceleration=A, Final speed=F, Starting speed=S and Time=T) is A=F-S/T. So A=8.16-(aprox)1/0.98. This makes the acceleration of the snake 7.3cm/S.
This means we can do the other means of calculating force, (Where Force=F, Mass=M and Acceleration=A), F=M*A. Maurice ways about 125g I think, so that means that F=125*7.3. Therefore the force of the strike is 912.5 grams.
So for My snake its 912.5g. Hope that helped
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Originally posted by hillzi
Yeah. okay then heres another one
How about how fast is a strike?
It's really interesting I think
8.16Cm/S, as above.
Sorry to go all in depth, got a free period at school and nothing to do |
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Posted - 23/03/2009 : 18:16:02
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| I have a sneeky suspicion the school you go to is better then the one I went to! Nice work there. |
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Posted - 23/03/2009 : 19:20:44
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I have a sneeky suspicion the school you go to is better then the one I went to! Nice work there.
Lol thanks. My schools actualy quite crap, I just learn from home mostly |
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Posted - 23/03/2009 : 19:49:42
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| He he who's going to step up and mark it then? :) only kidding |
1.0.0 Tom a 10 month old Flourescent orange Corn 29 inches and growing fast
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hillzi
The Lost boy.
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/03/2009 : 19:54:17
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Err.. sorry no physics nerd. but 912g slamming into a mouse has GOT TO hurt.
I wonder whats it like for an anaconda!!!
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