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Flatpack63
Hatchling

United Kingdom
331 Posts

Posted - 20/02/2009 :  13:45:13  Show Profile
I've had my corn (Rizla) for about two years and have always used aspen. Was thinking of changing to shredded paper. I am going to try half the tank first. Is this a good idea?

dazb
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
1278 Posts

Posted - 20/02/2009 :  15:05:52  Show Profile
why you thinking about changing to paper if you dont mind me asking...?

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Ell
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1640 Posts

Posted - 20/02/2009 :  15:39:46  Show Profile  Click to see Ell's MSN Messenger address
This is an interesting subject.
For my Masters thesis I am studying enrichment for reptiles and it has been shown that the occasional changing of substrate is a good source of enrichment. Both aspen and paper bedding are suitable so I can't see how it would be a problem in that respect.



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Flatpack63
Hatchling

United Kingdom
331 Posts

Posted - 20/02/2009 :  16:10:06  Show Profile
Flatpack63[quote]Originally posted by dazb

why you thinking about changing to paper if you dont mind me asking...?

Just ease of availability really.

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Kehhlyr
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United Kingdom
8173 Posts

Posted - 21/02/2009 :  01:17:58  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Flatpack63


Just ease of availability really.



Especially as a lot of offices will let you have their shredded paper for nothing, because then it doesn't cost them for removal either.

I've been trying to get some info on straw, because it's what their natural habitat would basically be, but is there health issues to that one? Anyone know??

-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon

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a33272
our battery charger

United Kingdom
3063 Posts

Posted - 21/02/2009 :  07:49:55  Show Profile  Visit a33272's Homepage  Send a33272 an AOL message  Click to see a33272's MSN Messenger address
straw can carry mites as far as i can rememeber



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97 Posts

Posted - 21/02/2009 :  08:47:23  Show Profile
I'm using coconut fibre at the moment which is working well. Absorbs any liquids with ease, cheap to buy and easy to get hold of. Looks very natural as well.

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Ell
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/02/2009 :  12:39:04  Show Profile  Click to see Ell's MSN Messenger address
I know some straw can be dusty and it can carry mites but whether they would be snake mites is beyond me



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0.1.0 Strawberry Snow Stripe corn snake - Dawn
0.1.0 Harlequin Crested Gecko - Stickles
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Flatpack63
Hatchling

United Kingdom
331 Posts

Posted - 21/02/2009 :  12:51:11  Show Profile
Well the shredded paper has been in for a day now and Rizla seems to love it. He's spent most of his time burrowing through it and hiding under it. This may just be that its new, only time will tell.
At the moment he seems to prefer the parts of the viv with paper to the bits with Aspen.
I'll keep you posted.

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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 21/02/2009 :  16:49:58  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Kehhlyr

I've been trying to get some info on straw, because it's what their natural habitat would basically be, but is there health issues to that one? Anyone know??


straw - great for horses but could be problematic for reptiles?

it fluffs up incredibly well due to the straw length
it's a good insulator due to all the air spaces when it's fluffed up
it can be very dusty

so basically it's hard to get a thin layer of substrate over the heatmat, too thick a layer and the heat won't get through and it could cause respiratory problems.

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gingerpony
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/02/2009 :  16:51:37  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Flatpack63

Was thinking of changing to shredded paper. I am going to try half the tank first. Is this a good idea?


i use paper only in 4 of my vivs and i have used paper at one end and beech chippings at the other in my 4ft viv with no problems

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dazb
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
1278 Posts

Posted - 21/02/2009 :  18:19:03  Show Profile
i used shredded paper with my first hatchling for ages with no probs at all.
I was just curious about why you were thinking of using it.

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Posted - 21/02/2009 :  20:36:42  Show Profile
Would any shredded paper be safe for reptiles?

I could shred old newspapers, but what about stuff I've printed out from the PC - would the inks be safe? Or glossy pages - they wouldn't be as absorbent I suppose...

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Kehhlyr
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United Kingdom
8173 Posts

Posted - 21/02/2009 :  21:12:14  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address
Before i used office paper, i used to get paper from a chippy up the road.
They'd sell me a big wadge of the paper they use to wrap chips for a few quid.
That stuff was excellent when it went through a shredder.

-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon

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solid
Hatchling

United Kingdom
428 Posts

Posted - 22/02/2009 :  15:40:14  Show Profile
i was using shredded paper from work (printed,mags,invoices ect.) for the last month and half or so without problems, but changed to aspen yesterday for asthetics


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Flatpack63
Hatchling

United Kingdom
331 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2009 :  14:44:18  Show Profile
I've changed back to Aspen at the moment, (Having aquired a sack of Aspen free).
I've noticed that he's been less active since. in shredded paper he liked to tunnel a lot. Now he's more inclined to lay still a lot more.
I'm going to monitor him for a month and see how he is.

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