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 Posted - 03/11/2008 : 00:10:38
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Hey, I'm hoping to get a corn snake very soon and im dead excited :D
Im sure its been answered before and im really really sorry but I was wondering about the size of the cages. I'm going to be getting a baby corn, and was wondering if putting it in a big vivarium straight away would be a problem? I heard they can get scared if put into a big cage...but if it was born in the wild it would have lots of room and if i was to put lots of places to hide and handle it often to get used to me it might be okay? Just i'd rather not get a small plastic tank thing lol, but obviously I want whats best for the snake. I'm also pretty confused about the whole heat mat thing, my friend has a adult corn and just uses a bulb in the vivarium for heat with a guard around it at one end of the vivarium. Is that okay to use instead of a heat mat?
Sorry for the essay, would just rather be certain about it before getting the snake and mucking it up! Any other tips and help would also be appriciated lol =)
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Posted - 03/11/2008 : 08:24:59
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Hi Aimz, i'm a fellow beginner keeper myself, but as far as i have heard:
1) Baby Corns do need small spaces are they get easy scared of open spaces. So putting it in a big vivarium would be a problem, so unfortunately a small plastic tub may be your only option. They should only cost anything up to £5. Probably cheaper than that.
2) As far as the heat mat goes i have heard that it could be harmful to the snake to have a heat mat as the burrow and could burn themselves. But people assume me that a heat mat is perfectly fine as long as there is a Stat that can turn the heat mat off and on, so as not to burn the snake. As as far as i know, just a heat mat is not sufficient heating for your snake when it is older. It will also need a bulb aswell i believe.
If anyone disagrees then please post. I am only a beginner keeper so i could be wrong. But i think if you ask a few other people or wait for them to reply on here they will say the say as me.
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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 03/11/2008 : 09:14:11
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Hi xaimzx, and welcome to the forum.
As Tommy_bee said, a small plastic tank/tub is better for your corn as a baby, with a couple of nice hidey holes.
In regards to heating, just a heat mat is fine for your corn, it only needs to cover about 1 third of the bottom of the tank.
So if you have a 10 inch by 6 inch tub, then a heat mat would only cover about 3 inches of the bottom of the viv, therefore giving it a warmer end and a cooler end.
A small 6x6 inch heat mat will be adequate until the snake is a fair few months old.
A stat attched to the heat mat, with the temp probe inside the viv is recommended, purely because it'll turn the mat off it it gets too hot.
I'll post a diagram in a mo. 
Diagram here:
Not superb i'm afraid, i only have a basic graphics program on my linux system. |
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Posted - 03/11/2008 : 11:11:52
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| Corn snakes do not need a heat light, if u want a light it would be for ur use only so u could see it at night but they dont need one for heating, a heat mat with a stat like kehhlyr said at 1 third the size of the tank would be just fine, by the way welcome to the site hope u enjoy. |
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gingerpony
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Posted - 03/11/2008 : 20:21:49
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yeah go Kehhlyr and the arty diagrams! 
a heatmat with a thermostat is the best method for corns - when you turn a basking light off at night the temperature could drop too low. |
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Posted - 03/11/2008 : 20:23:22
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I use heatmats for all of mine with thermostats, as it saves money getting new bulbs.  |
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Posted - 17/11/2008 : 23:17:00
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| Thank you for the help & the lovely diagram haha =) another quick question lol, can you handle your snake as soon as they have shedded their skin and its all off or do you have to wait a certain time before handling them again? |
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Posted - 17/11/2008 : 23:34:09
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| I may be wrong, and if I am then someone will correct me, but I think you can handle them as soon as they have shed. It's recommended that you check them anyway to make sure all the old skin has come off. Also, check the old skin to make sure that the skin over the eyes has shed too. |
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Posted - 18/11/2008 : 02:02:00
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Paul is right, handling after shedding is fine, especially to check for any skin that's left.
Again the only exception to the handling, is if they've been fed in the day or 2 prior to shedding. |
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Posted - 18/11/2008 : 20:26:14
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| yup i fully agree with paul and kehhlyr. retained shed skin can cause problems so it's best practice to check the snake AND the shed skin |
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Posted - 26/11/2008 : 00:02:19
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| thanks =) sorry for all the questions but at the moment the family are re-doing the house lol (just built an extension)...all rooms are being painted and moved about (building stuff like wardrobes etc)and so this means there will be alot of bashing and noise for quite a long time around the whole house. Would this cause a huge problem for the snake? I know baby snakes can get very nervous and stressed easily and I dont think they can hear lol, but would the vibrations from the bashing do any harm? I dont want to cause it loads of stress and stop it from eating & stuff. Dont think i worded this to well, but hopefully someone will be able to help me on this situation lol? |
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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 26/11/2008 : 00:32:52
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I love questions like these xaimzx, because there can be so many different opinions.
I believe that strong vibrations close to them could be un-nerving for them.
I've also read recently that snakes 'could' possibly sense the vibrations from a male voice speaking normally in a quiet and still room from up to 10 feet away.
I usually try to keep strong vibrations away from them, or if it can't be helped, then keeping it to as minimal time as possible. |
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