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Mouse
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Posted - 10/03/2010 :  10:35:19  Show Profile  Click to see Mouse's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hey, I kow I've posted these in the corn pics section, but I figured I post a couple here.

Any ideas what she is?
I've been told lots of different things, the latest being a rosy rat.









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hiper2009
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Posted - 10/03/2010 :  11:20:00  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Looks like a Normal, wild type or either a Miami.

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Kellog
the nice one

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Posted - 10/03/2010 :  11:30:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As I have said before I am rubbish at morphs, but I can understand why you might think she is a rosy rat....but it doesnt look quite right, she seems too colourful.

I do wonder about a Hypo Okeetee, because of the white banding around her saddles.....but I am not sure what the ventral scales look like for a Hypo Okeetee.

But to be honest my best guess would be a normal/carolina. There is a pic very like her on iansviv (5th pic down on the right of pics loaded by members).

But I know that you will be told what she definitely is soon, by someone who knows what they are talking about!

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hiper2009
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Posted - 10/03/2010 :  12:05:56  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Its defo not a Rosy Rat Snake as my friend has a rosy rat snake and yours looks nothing like it.

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DannyBrown91
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Posted - 10/03/2010 :  12:19:19  Show Profile  Click to see DannyBrown91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hiper2009

Its defo not a Rosy Rat Snake as my friend has a rosy rat snake and yours looks nothing like it.



I'm not so convinced, i think it may be a Rosy rat/Keys corn, or possibly a normal/Carolina.

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hiper2009
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Posted - 10/03/2010 :  12:56:59  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote

This is a Rosy rat snake, Your snakling has a cornsnake's head but corns and rat snakes are like cousins though.

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DannyBrown91
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Posted - 10/03/2010 :  13:40:27  Show Profile  Click to see DannyBrown91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hiper2009


This is a Rosy rat snake, Your snakling has a cornsnake's head but corns and rat snakes are like cousins though.



Good point about the head. Also Rosy Rats have been reclassed as a corn snake havn't they?

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mikerichards
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Posted - 10/03/2010 :  15:13:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The first pic is a normal hypo, hypo is short for hypomelanistic, means reduced black basically, see the belly checkers are not solid and are washed out, key sign of a hypo.
As far as I am aware the rosy rat is exactly that, its no more a corn thatn a great plains, they look similar, almost the same infact, sometimes the only way to 100% be sure of the snake is a scale count, especially the head as the formations of scales are different.

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hiper2009
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Posted - 10/03/2010 :  15:20:46  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mikerichards

The first pic is a normal hypo, hypo is short for hypomelanistic, means reduced black basically, see the belly checkers are not solid and are washed out, key sign of a hypo.
As far as I am aware the rosy rat is exactly that, its no more a corn thatn a great plains, they look similar, almost the same infact, sometimes the only way to 100% be sure of the snake is a scale count, especially the head as the formations of scales are different.



I knew it was a normal didn't know it was a hypomelanistic normal though haha

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DannyBrown91
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Posted - 10/03/2010 :  15:45:53  Show Profile  Click to see DannyBrown91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mikerichards

The first pic is a normal hypo, hypo is short for hypomelanistic, means reduced black basically, see the belly checkers are not solid and are washed out, key sign of a hypo.
As far as I am aware the rosy rat is exactly that, its no more a corn thatn a great plains, they look similar, almost the same infact, sometimes the only way to 100% be sure of the snake is a scale count, especially the head as the formations of scales are different.



Thats a nice little tip about the belly checkers mike.

In reference to the text bolded -

Keys Corn or Rosy Rat Snake

A normal phase from the Florida Keys. Once thought to be a seperate species, but now re-classified as a true corn snake. Smaller in size to other corns, it has a golden background colour with blotches ranging from dark crimson to bright orange.


So technically still a corn snake, as i said in a previous post it was reclassified.

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Mouse
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Posted - 10/03/2010 :  16:46:31  Show Profile  Click to see Mouse's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Whats the difference between a RRats head and a corn head??


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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 10/03/2010 :  17:15:16  Show Profile  Click to see DannyBrown91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mouse

Whats the difference between a RRats head and a corn head??



It looks from the picture that a rosy rats head may be a little bigger and more distinguished from the neck compared to other corns.

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Blackecho
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Posted - 10/03/2010 :  19:27:53  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I'd just say it was a normal Corn to be honest. The wild types have a lot of natural variation.



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eeji
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Posted - 10/03/2010 :  21:27:26  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
there is a chance that it may come from keys lines looking at the colours, and keys corns also have a natural hypo effect with a very reduced belly pattern - I wouldn't say he was pure keys though.


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Mouse
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Posted - 10/03/2010 :  23:40:57  Show Profile  Click to see Mouse's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Okay, so far we're heading towards A Slight Amel normal/keys?!!


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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 11/03/2010 :  00:24:04  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think it's a orange, yellow and white snake.

I am clueless when it comes to morphs, so that how I describe them.
Anerys are 'grey ones', snows are 'white ones' normals are 'orange ones'.
I know what I'm on about then.

You also have the 'pale grey ones', 'orange ones with lines on it' and so on.

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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 11/03/2010 :  00:28:22  Show Profile  Click to see DannyBrown91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mouse

Okay, so far we're heading towards A Slight Amel normal/keys?!!

Amel normal/keys? where did the Amel come from lol.

Looks like she may be either Hypo Normal, or a normal/Keys.

I like Kehlyyrs method lol.

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0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
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hiper2009
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Posted - 11/03/2010 :  00:40:15  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DannyBrown91

quote:
Originally posted by Mouse

Okay, so far we're heading towards A Slight Amel normal/keys?!!

Amel normal/keys? where did the Amel come from lol.

Looks like she may be either Hypo Normal, or a normal/Keys.

I like Kehlyyrs method lol.



Amel have red eyes so no way is amel in there dont know where you got that idea from , Its either a normal wild type hypo or a keys corn as stated.

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Mouse
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Posted - 11/03/2010 :  08:15:00  Show Profile  Click to see Mouse's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
HAHAHA thanks!


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0.1.0 - Sprockett - Normal/hypo/het snow Corn

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Mouse
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Posted - 11/03/2010 :  10:30:41  Show Profile  Click to see Mouse's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I didn't mean amel - I am a sponk. I meant hypo.

To be fair I bought her because she looked lovely, and because I fell in love with her. I never started to think about morphs etc until the beginning of this year, so I have been looking as much as I can up, but it's still a little confusing.


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0.1.0 - Sprockett - Normal/hypo/het snow Corn

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hiper2009
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Posted - 11/03/2010 :  10:58:18  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mouse

I didn't mean amel - I am a sponk. I meant hypo.

To be fair I bought her because she looked lovely, and because I fell in love with her. I never started to think about morphs etc until the beginning of this year, so I have been looking as much as I can up, but it's still a little confusing.



She is gorgeous though no need to worry what she is i would have her if you don't want her i wouldn't say no but i would class her as either a keys corn or normal hypo.

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