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morph2010
Egg
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 13/02/2010 : 12:59:21
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Hi all i'm new to all this snake keeping so forgive me if my questions are a little on the daft side!
I,ve got a blue corn had it for under a week now tank is all set up and hiding places subtrate all in, using a small heat mat and temp is barley 25 is this ok?
also when we first got him he was very active around tank and was great to handle slithering up ya jumper ect
Trouble is now he just hides away and when i take him out to handle he just stays wrapped up and will not move
i moved him into another room because i set up a webcam to see if my dog pesters it while were at work and she wines and constantly stares at the viv so i've moved snake into a quieter room locked away and safe from the dog
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1 Harley, Anery corn (not sure on age!)
1 Amber, Mad as a hatter springer 7yrs
8 ft fish tanks loads of fishys
1 Bobby, Cat 2yrs
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/02/2010 : 13:08:39
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Hi Morph
Have a look throught the care sheet http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/corn_snake_care_sheet.htm
also thns link http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4133
He will be hiding away as he is just getting used to his new home so best to leave him be for a week with no handling or feeding just putting in fresh water. Ideally his hot end temps should be between 27 and 30 so 25 is a bit cool.
If you could give us more information on the setup like tanks size, what material is it, heatmat size and is it regulated by a stat and the snake size approx.
edited to add: should also ask what are you using to minitor the temp. digital therm or dial |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/02/2010 : 13:13:31
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As above really, temps want to be about 27 28 degrees really, at 25, although its not too cold, he will be on the brink of hibernation anyway, so best get the temps up a bit. If you are not using a stat, even though you should really, and the temps still arent up enough then the mats too small, saying that, are you measuring the air temperature or the temp of the floor of the viv where the heat mat is?
Need to remember that corns like to absorb their warmth from the floor rather than have hot air temps.
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Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Posted - 13/02/2010 : 14:26:57
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Like these guys keep saying, size of the viv makes a difference. If there is too much space the little snake will hide away to feel safe. Snickers stayed hidden in her cocoanut shell the majority of her first three or four months except for when I took her out.quote:
Originally posted by morph2010
Hi all i'm new to all this snake keeping so forgive me if my questions are a little on the daft side!
I,ve got a blue corn had it for under a week now tank is all set up and hiding places subtrate all in, using a small heat mat and temp is barley 25 is this ok?
also when we first got him he was very active around tank and was great to handle slithering up ya jumper ect
Trouble is now he just hides away and when i take him out to handle he just stays wrapped up and will not move
i moved him into another room because i set up a webcam to see if my dog pesters it while were at work and she wines and constantly stares at the viv so i've moved snake into a quieter room locked away and safe from the dog
any ideas??
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Posted - 13/02/2010 : 19:05:19
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morph2010
Egg
United Kingdom
97 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2010 : 21:29:19
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Thanks peeps
The guy in shop said it was a blue corn????
Tank is 15" x 12" and 12" deep i'm using a thin layer of aspen substrate and temp gauge is about 6" from heat mat
The snake itself is 34" long
Hope this help?
tried to add pics but not sure how
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1 Harley, Anery corn (not sure on age!)
1 Amber, Mad as a hatter springer 7yrs
8 ft fish tanks loads of fishys
1 Bobby, Cat 2yrs
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morph2010
Egg
United Kingdom
97 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2010 : 21:53:53
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some pics
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1 Harley, Anery corn (not sure on age!)
1 Amber, Mad as a hatter springer 7yrs
8 ft fish tanks loads of fishys
1 Bobby, Cat 2yrs
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/02/2010 : 21:59:34
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Never heard of a blue corn, I think the guy in the shop may have been talking out if his backside!!
The temp gauge and stat probe need to be ON the substrate, because that is where your snake will be spending its time when warming up. Use an elastic band to secure your probes together and lie them where you snake would lie- this should give you a much more accurate reading. I am assuming your mat is attached to a stat and monitored by a thermometer?
The substrate over the heat mat needs to be no more than a cm ish, I tend to use a sprinkling of aspen over mine. If the substrate is too thick then the heat wont be able to penetrate properly and your snake may get cold.
General rule of thumb regarding size of enclosure is that your snakes length should be equal to one long and one short side of the viv/faun.
For pics, get yourself a Photobucket account, upload the photos and then paste the image code into your post.
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Cover the back and both sides of the tank. Glass tanks can lead to insecurity problems in the tank.
Add some fake plants for extra cover, which will help your corn feel more secure.
Don't feed in the viv if possible- ideally feed your snake in a separate tub or box, allow the food to go down well and then gently move your snake back into its tank. Feeding in the viv can cause accidental ingestion of the substrate, leading to impaction. If you do want to feed in the viv then lay some paper, kitchen towel or a dish down to keep the food off the substrate.
Your snake looks like an anery, a morph which lacks the pigment allowing it to produce oranges and reds. There is no such thing as a blue corn.
Get a digi thermometer ASAP, those dial ones are absolute poop! |
9.11 Cornsnakes
1.1 Hogg island boas
1.0 Dwarf Burmese python
Location: Watford
Website- http://rassnakes.yolasite.com/ |
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morph2010
Egg
United Kingdom
97 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2010 : 22:04:41
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| managed to add some pics any ideas of type off corn? |
1 Harley, Anery corn (not sure on age!)
1 Amber, Mad as a hatter springer 7yrs
8 ft fish tanks loads of fishys
1 Bobby, Cat 2yrs
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2010 : 22:12:51
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| same as SB looks like anery |
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morph2010
Egg
United Kingdom
97 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2010 : 22:42:36
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he's doing much better today now in a quite room has been fed and looking alot more alert
thanks for the info peeps  |
1 Harley, Anery corn (not sure on age!)
1 Amber, Mad as a hatter springer 7yrs
8 ft fish tanks loads of fishys
1 Bobby, Cat 2yrs
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2010 : 22:45:56
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| Would still cover the walls and get a digi therm though, they are essential bits of kit. |
9.11 Cornsnakes
1.1 Hogg island boas
1.0 Dwarf Burmese python
Location: Watford
Website- http://rassnakes.yolasite.com/ |
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morph2010
Egg
United Kingdom
97 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2010 : 22:59:30
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yes will do, cover the walls you mean black them out?
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1 Harley, Anery corn (not sure on age!)
1 Amber, Mad as a hatter springer 7yrs
8 ft fish tanks loads of fishys
1 Bobby, Cat 2yrs
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2010 : 23:01:15
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| Just with anything, newspaper, aquarium wallpaper etc. |
9.11 Cornsnakes
1.1 Hogg island boas
1.0 Dwarf Burmese python
Location: Watford
Website- http://rassnakes.yolasite.com/ |
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Sammysnake
Yearling
United Kingdom
606 Posts |
Posted - 14/02/2010 : 07:49:55
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Just thinking - did the guy in the shop perhaps say it was 'in' blue or due to go blue? If you've only had him a week it's possible he was getting ready to shed when you bought him and he hasn't done it yet - that would make him hide away. Are his eyes always black or have they looked cloudy blue at any time since you've known him? When their eyes are cloudy they hide because they can't see. In the photo they look blue but that could just be the camera.
Definitely sort all the other things already mentioned as it's vital that the temps are right. Then, if it is a case of getting ready to shed he should do that very soon and then be much more active.
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09 male Anery Corn ‘Twilight’
08 male Rankins Dragon ‘Keydo’ |
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morph2010
Egg
United Kingdom
97 Posts |
Posted - 14/02/2010 : 11:36:02
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Thanks again
He's eyes are clear and does not look ready to shed yet
apparently snake is about 6 months old?
Got temp upto 30 now |
1 Harley, Anery corn (not sure on age!)
1 Amber, Mad as a hatter springer 7yrs
8 ft fish tanks loads of fishys
1 Bobby, Cat 2yrs
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HannahB
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/02/2010 : 11:58:46
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| if hes about 34" long then id guess at well over 6months..possibly nearer 18months at that length |
2.0 Normal Royal Pythons - Q and Little One
1.0 Chihauhaun Mountain Kingsnake - Simba
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Posted - 14/02/2010 : 20:39:03
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| Do you have a thermostat? If you were getting (allbeit on a dial thermometer) 25*c 6 inches from the mat, the mat would have been running A LOT higher than 30*C. |
0.1.0 Anery corn- LegLess
1.0.0 Carolina corn- NoFeet
1.0.0 Syrian hamster- Jabba
0.2.0 Albino ferrets- Mable & Sue
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morph2010
Egg
United Kingdom
97 Posts |
Posted - 14/02/2010 : 22:53:39
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going to order a therm there are a few types?
" mat stat " and " temp stat " which one would i need? |
1 Harley, Anery corn (not sure on age!)
1 Amber, Mad as a hatter springer 7yrs
8 ft fish tanks loads of fishys
1 Bobby, Cat 2yrs
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
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Posted - 15/02/2010 : 09:59:43
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A mat stat and temp stat are very similar, they do pretty much the same thing, the others are pulse stats and dimmer stats, they do pretty much what they say on the tin. Agreed with above, at 3 ft you are looking at a year minimum, if he is younger then that's some serious power feeding!
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