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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  10:29:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How do the breeders on here set up their egg boxes?

Mushu has a large tupperware box 3/4 full with moss, there is a round hole in the side and the lid is attached.

Problem is, she insists on pushing all the way through the moss so she is lying on the plastic- this isn't a problem at the moment, but when the eggs arrive they will be able to roll about.

Any ideas on what I can do to resolve the situation?

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a33272
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  11:11:45  Show Profile  Visit a33272's Homepage  Send a33272 an AOL message  Click to see a33272's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
why not try her with vermiculite instead of moss



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SexyBear77
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  11:39:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lol, that hadn't even crossed my mind!! D'oh.

Will put a layer in the bottom of the tub and leave the moss on top, that way she can still have her privacy, she is very stressy atm!! Not that I can blame her...

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mikerichards
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  11:39:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can use vermiculite instead, or, put a hole in the top, that's what I do and I don't get any burrowing issues. Its also worth noting that it usually takes 48 hours for the egg to start growing, so a roll over in this time won't neccessarily kill the egg.
I have had eggs roll in the first day or so and hatched no problem.

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SexyBear77
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  11:40:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mikerichards

You can use vermiculite instead, or, put a hole in the top, that's what I do and I don't get any burrowing issues. Its also worth noting that it usually takes 48 hours for the egg to start growing, so a roll over in this time won't neccessarily kill the egg.
I have had eggs roll in the first day or so and hatched no problem.



Cheers Mike, thats helpful to know.

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a33272
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  11:49:56  Show Profile  Visit a33272's Homepage  Send a33272 an AOL message  Click to see a33272's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SexyBear77
she is very stressy atm!! Not that I can blame her...



typical woman during birth then hahaha



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mikerichards
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  16:45:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One thing I missed out, make the vermiculite moist for the box, same as you would for the incubator, that way if you miss it for whatever reason the eggs won't dehydrate as quickly.

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mikerichards
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  16:48:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really need to remember more before I press the button!
Last thing, I think, always let your girlie finish laying before removing eggs, they can get very agitated and become egg bound if disturbed too much. 12 hrs from start to finish is usually adequate.

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SexyBear77
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  17:17:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheers Mike, done plenty of research so I'm all clued up on what to do

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mikerichards
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  17:45:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wonderful, let us know how you get on.

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SexyBear77
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  17:47:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Will do!! Fingers crossed everything goes well for her, thanks for all the advice.

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mikerichards
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  19:25:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its all gonna be fine, dont worry about it!

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mikerichards
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  19:26:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just noticed, you have a cat called Dave. Thats an awesome name for a cat! We are getting a kitten tomorro, i want to call it Dave, but we already have a rabbit called Dave!

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SexyBear77
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  19:27:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lol his full name is Dangerous Dave, he was flippin feral when we got him!

Thanks for the reassurance too, nervous Granny syndrome kicking in!!

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eeji
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  20:06:07  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i use vermiculite in the lay boxes too, mixed approx 3:1 with water so its just enough to hold the verm together, with no water dripping out when you squeeze it. I use the same ratio in the incubator boxes too, with a layer of damp moss over the top.


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mikerichards
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  20:17:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nah, you dont need to worry, its quite simple really, just move them to incubator and let them cook!
The way i was shown with the vermiculite is to put it in a box, then fill the box with water, let it soak, then wring the vermiculite out, so it doesnt drip, that tends to hold enough water to last the 9 weeks or so for incubation.
Make sure you dont have too many air holes, you only need a couple, and i am pretty sure they want to be on the side, to minimise the evaporation.
Dont be tempted to open the box to have a look every 5 minutes, i did that with my first clutch and i had a very poor survival rate, let them do their bit.
What setup have you got for your incubator?

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SexyBear77
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  20:22:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We are borrowing the incubator from one of people associated with the scottish reptiles club?

They have a vast amount of snakes and reps and so I am expecting the incubator to be a professional one with a window, though it could be anything!!

Dad is collecting it tomorrow so we can have a couple of weeks to get it set up and running well, and get used to dealing with it so when the eggs are in we shouldn't have too many issues.

I will post the set up this weekend once it has arrived. I am guessing set-up and running will be dependent on type/brand?

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mikerichards
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  20:26:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To be honest, they all do the same thing so it should be quite simple really, it is a good idea to have the incubator running for a few weeks before hand, its not a bad idea to have the vermiculite ready and in there too, incase of surprises! Not only that, but it gives you an idea of how the incubator deals with temp fluctuations also, any quirks!
What temp are you going to cook them at?
also, dont shoot me for asking pls, do you know the maximum temp the eggs can take before dying?

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SexyBear77
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  20:40:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was planning on cooking them at around 78-84f? Does this sound ok?

I don't know the max temp before they do- mid 90's maybe?

All advice incredibly welcome!! and thanks for offering it

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mikerichards
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  21:11:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Am afraid i dont do Fahrenheit! Ideal temps are around 27c gives you approx 55 days i think it is incubation.
If your incubator hits 33 degrees C, the eggs will die incredibly quickly, so its best to set low and maybe some kind of backup.
I run 2 stats on my incubator, one is built into the AHS heater i use, then the other is a dimmer, the ahs is set to about 32, whilst the dimmer is set to about 27, that way, i one fails, the other catches it, in theory!
To be honest, thats about all of it, its very simple, the hardest bit is resisting the urge to check on the eggs every five minutes! lol

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SexyBear77
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Posted - 11/02/2010 :  21:13:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Mike, thats great!


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