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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 31/12/2009 : 00:44:20
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I have just adopted an 18 month old Corn. Not sure what flavour as this is all new to me so I will try to post you all a photo later to find out.
Anyway, before I agreed to take the snake on I did a bit of reading up and found many places that advised not feeding in the viv as the snake can ingest substrate with the food. But how do you put the snake back into the viv without handling it for its 48hr post feeding period? Got a bit confused sorry.
Also, the corn I have adopted is about 50cm long. I expected it to be bigger. Is that about normal for 18 months old? He seems really bright and alert.
Finally, I have adopted him complete with his housing, substrate, heat mat, hidey holes etc. Do we still have to observe the week long settling period? Also he is due a feed tomorrow. Should he be fed or left to settle.
I am so glad I found this site as I have been facinated with snakes for a long time and this adoptee seems like such a gift I want to make sure we do things right. |
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devilsmistress
Yearling
United Kingdom
829 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2009 : 00:54:01
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I have just adopted an 18 month old Corn. Not sure what flavour as this is all new to me so I will try to post you all a photo later to find out.
Anyway, before I agreed to take the snake on I did a bit of reading up and found many places that advised not feeding in the viv as the snake can ingest substrate with the food. But how do you put the snake back into the viv without handling it for its 48hr post feeding period? Got a bit confused sorry
Its fine to pick the snake up and place it back in the viv after feeding, Just try and suport the bump if you can!
Also, the corn I have adopted is about 50cm long. I expected it to be bigger. Is that about normal for 18 months old? He seems really bright and alert.
All snakes grow at diffrent rates. My two for example, one is 3 weeks younger than the other yet the youngest is half the size of the eldest
Finally, I have adopted him complete with his housing, substrate, heat mat, hidey holes etc. Do we still have to observe the week long settling period? Also he is due a feed tomorrow. Should he be fed or left to settle.
It would be wise to leave him for the week, Missing a feed wont do him no harm, as they can go a few months without a feed so one week wont hurt! I say leave him a week as even though he is in his own home he has to get used to the vibrations and smells of your home now, if that makes sence?
I am so glad I found this site as I have been facinated with snakes for a long time and this adoptee seems like such a gift I want to make sure we do things right.
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HannahB
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 31/12/2009 : 01:39:17
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hey and welcome - why not make a proper intro post in the intro section?
agree with what dm has already said 
just dont forget the pics! |
2.0 Normal Royal Pythons - Q and Little One
1.0 Chihauhaun Mountain Kingsnake - Simba
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 31/12/2009 : 09:52:29
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| I would add that I feed all my snakes in the viv with no troubles, but they all strike-feed, I make sure the prey is dry to minimise the possibility of picking up substrate and I use a soft substrate like Aspen. |
 
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reptiledanny
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1809 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2009 : 10:28:27
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Originally posted by kdlang
I have just adopted an 18 month old Corn. Not sure what flavour as this is all new to me so I will try to post you all a photo later to find out.
Anyway, before I agreed to take the snake on I did a bit of reading up and found many places that advised not feeding in the viv as the snake can ingest substrate with the food. But how do you put the snake back into the viv without handling it for its 48hr post feeding period? Got a bit confused sorry.
Also, the corn I have adopted is about 50cm long. I expected it to be bigger. Is that about normal for 18 months old? He seems really bright and alert.
Finally, I have adopted him complete with his housing, substrate, heat mat, hidey holes etc. Do we still have to observe the week long settling period? Also he is due a feed tomorrow. Should he be fed or left to settle.
I am so glad I found this site as I have been facinated with snakes for a long time and this adoptee seems like such a gift I want to make sure we do things right.
haha, flavour, i don't mean to be mean but you aint guna eat it, colour or morph. if you want to be decnical call it a morph.
i always fed in viv, had no probs, just watch and make sure no substrate is eaten as well. i would leave him for a week to settle in again even though he is in his viv, it is new smell and new environment, congrats on new and welcome to the forum. |
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
4379 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2009 : 10:43:58
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| Flavour is fine, we know what you mean, Danny, how about sorting out your own sentence structure before criticising others? |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2009 : 12:57:06
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Originally posted by reptiledanny
haha, flavour, i don't mean to be mean but you aint guna eat it, colour or morph. if you want to be decnical call it a morph.
i always fed in viv, had no probs, just watch and make sure no substrate is eaten as well. i would leave him for a week to settle in again even though he is in his viv, it is new smell and new environment, congrats on new and welcome to the forum.
sorry? and again in English?? |
cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos
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Posted - 31/12/2009 : 14:23:09
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Originally posted by gingerpony
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Originally posted by reptiledanny
haha, flavour, i don't mean to be mean but you aint guna eat it, colour or morph. if you want to be decnical call it a morph.
i always fed in viv, had no probs, just watch and make sure no substrate is eaten as well. i would leave him for a week to settle in again even though he is in his viv, it is new smell and new environment, congrats on new and welcome to the forum.
sorry? and again in English??
that made me giggle 
welcome to the forum kdlang |
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reptiledanny
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1809 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2009 : 15:00:35
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wll sorry, thast just the way i write, wat the point in writing owt the whole word wen u can shorten it to be the smae savin time. i just found it a bit funny, sorry |
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
4379 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2009 : 15:48:29
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Originally posted by reptiledanny
wll sorry, thast just the way i write, wat the point in writing owt the whole word wen u can shorten it to be the smae savin time. i just found it a bit funny, sorry
Just out of interest, how is writing 'owt' quicker than writing 'out', in fact the letters o,u & t are closer together than o,w & t. |
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reptiledanny
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1809 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2009 : 16:52:26
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| becuz wen you type owt you use two habnd so it becomes quicker than using one to type out. i wil try from know on starting after this post to type normal. sorry if i annoy people with this typeing. im a teenager. starting know. |
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lmfastcars
Hatchling
United Kingdom
360 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2009 : 17:11:15
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| lol this made me laugh, but I know how you feel. People kept telling me to write correctly on a keyboard when i was in school. Just think of it as practice for English :) |
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hillzi
The Lost boy.
United Kingdom
3984 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2009 : 17:23:23
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2009 : 21:40:09
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Originally posted by reptiledanny
wll sorry, thast just the way i write, wat the point in writing owt the whole word wen u can shorten it to be the smae savin time. i just found it a bit funny, sorry
because it takes 'normal people' 3 times as long to work out what you mean........... do they let you do your homework from school in 'txt spk'? or do you have to write/type it properly? |
cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
7308 Posts |
Posted - 01/01/2010 : 08:47:25
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Originally posted by kdlang
I have just adopted an 18 month old Corn. Not sure what flavour as this is all new to me so I will try to post you all a photo later to find out.
Anyway, before I agreed to take the snake on I did a bit of reading up and found many places that advised not feeding in the viv as the snake can ingest substrate with the food. But how do you put the snake back into the viv without handling it for its 48hr post feeding period? Got a bit confused sorry.
Also, the corn I have adopted is about 50cm long. I expected it to be bigger. Is that about normal for 18 months old? He seems really bright and alert.
Finally, I have adopted him complete with his housing, substrate, heat mat, hidey holes etc. Do we still have to observe the week long settling period? Also he is due a feed tomorrow. Should he be fed or left to settle.
I am so glad I found this site as I have been facinated with snakes for a long time and this adoptee seems like such a gift I want to make sure we do things right.
Firstly welcome...and as HannahB suggested let us welcome you properly by posting a 'Hello' in the Introduction section! 
Love the word flavour!! Think it is much more appropriate than the official word 'morph' for those of us who are not technically (in snake terms) minded! 
As DevilMistress has said it is fine to feed your snake outside of the viv because of the danger with ingesting substrate. I was advised to wait until the 'bump/dinner' had got around half way down and then gently support your snake with one hand one third from head and other hand one third from tail. Think this probably contradicts DM's advice about supporting the bump...so would be interested in an 'expert opinion' (GP???)
If you are feeding your snake in a feeding RUB, with just kitchen roll in the bottom, then you can just allow it to slither back into its viv by holding the RUB at an angle into the viv, or even gently 'tip' it into the viv.
I do know owners who do feed their snakes in the vivs, and have done so myself...but most put the mouse over a bowl or tile, or even put down a piece of paper or kitchen roll so that it isnt actually eaten on the substrate. I know reptiledanny says that he just watches and makes sure no substrate is eaten...but I am not quite sure what he would do if he saw some going into his snake's mouth along with dinner! Politely ask the snake to stop eating while he removes the offending article from his snake's mouth  ??
Again DM is right about the size of your snake. It is a good idea to start a 'Snake Diary' which notes things like feeding, shedding, etc. The reason I mention this now is because it would be good to weigh it so you have a way of keeping track on its growth. That way you can also tell better about age, size, weight and whether everything is ok. If you are really worried then post a pic so 'the experts' can take a look. This link will help with posting pics on here...http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14
Once again DM has got it right , she really knows what she is talking about !! Although it is in its own viv it still needs to get over the stress of moving and get used to the new smells etc of its new home. It also needs to get used to you, so keep to the one week no handling or feeding rule...just put your hand in to change the water daily and straighten the substrate so it gets used to your smell.
This site really is great...I know it kept gave me much needed advice and kept me sane when I first got my snake. Your snake is very blessed to have been adopted by you and you are doing a fantastic job of trying to get things right....which is all we can do and should do for our snakes.
xxx
By the way...we are not the 'English Language Police' on here, but certain language has become a bit of a hot topic  as you may have noticed!! |
  
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lmfastcars
Hatchling
United Kingdom
360 Posts |
Posted - 01/01/2010 : 09:57:45
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reptiledanny
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1809 Posts |
Posted - 01/01/2010 : 09:59:53
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Originally posted by gingerpony
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Originally posted by reptiledanny
wll sorry, thast just the way i write, wat the point in writing owt the whole word wen u can shorten it to be the smae savin time. i just found it a bit funny, sorry
because it takes 'normal people' 3 times as long to work out what you mean........... do they let you do your homework from school in 'txt spk'? or do you have to write/type it properly?
well i will try, and no, school don't let you.  . |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 01/01/2010 : 12:58:06
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Originally posted by reptiledanny
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Originally posted by gingerpony
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Originally posted by reptiledanny
wll sorry, thast just the way i write, wat the point in writing owt the whole word wen u can shorten it to be the smae savin time. i just found it a bit funny, sorry
because it takes 'normal people' 3 times as long to work out what you mean........... do they let you do your homework from school in 'txt spk'? or do you have to write/type it properly?
well i will try, and no, school don't let you. .
well think of the forum as extra English practice then hun |
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3556 Posts |
Posted - 01/01/2010 : 13:51:48
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Thanks for all the replies guys and gals. I have to say this site is alot more friendly to a newbie than another pet forum I have been on.
I had thought about putting some kitchen roll into the viv (actually I don't think it is a viv, looks more like a fish tank but he seems to be happy in it for now) for feeding on. The substrate the previous owner was using is corn chip. It says on the bag that it is digestible but its not one I have heard of as I have been researching so wanted to be cautious.
Is there a particular time of day that is better for feeding. He seems to spend most of the day asleep. Yesterday it was in his cave and today it is buried under his water bowl. But he has been active late evening and is very inquisitive. Seems to like watching us move about.
I am just popping over to say hello in the intro section now and then will attempt photobucket to upload a couple of photos. |
4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
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devilsmistress
Yearling
United Kingdom
829 Posts |
Posted - 01/01/2010 : 14:27:37
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Originally posted by Kellog
Once again DM has got it right , she really knows what she is talking about !!
Awww thanks Kellog!! I only know what I have learnt from experiance and from on here though!
As for times to feed, I do try to wait for mine to wake up on there own before feeding, But there has been times that I have had to wake them up to feed them as I was going away for a few days ect. So in my opinion I would wait untill your snake is awake by its own means, before feeding unless you have no other choice. I look at it as if they were in the wild they become active and hunt in the evening, so why not follow that in our care? |
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