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Posted - 24/11/2009 :  13:09:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it appears everything i was told about the set up for my caramel appears to be wrong, can anyone please advise where the thermostat should be, i was advised an inch and a half above the heat mat, also the thermometers, where should these be placed, i was told on the viv near the top and looks like this is wrong, my heat mat is set between 84 and 88 is this right? thanks to anyone who can help x

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Posted - 24/11/2009 :  13:15:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
also was told that a corn shouldnt have a light yet many of u seem to use them
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Tizzy
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Posted - 24/11/2009 :  13:42:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No a light is not necessary for a corn, if people put them in it's purley to look nice, you need to be aware that most lights also give off heat too so need to be on a thermostat. Take a look at the care sheet http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/corn_snake_care_sheet.htm it should answer most of your questions regaring the set up and temps.

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PunkAsF82
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Posted - 24/11/2009 :  15:56:23  Show Profile  Visit PunkAsF82's Homepage  Click to see PunkAsF82's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
lights aren't needed, but some people like to use them to have better visibility of their snakie. but if you do use a light, be careful that it won;'t affect the ambient temp too much.

Some bulb can increase the temp a surprising amount, and you don't want a fried snakie!

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hillzi
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Posted - 24/11/2009 :  15:59:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
L.E.D lights can produce a very nice asthetically pleasing moonlit glow, but i dont like to use lights as i fear snakey may get a little ticked off...

IF you decided to put a light generating bulb in there. make sure you turn off it (duhh) to fit in with the natural light patterns. also you MUST have a guard. No burns or if faulty for any reason electric shocks.
No one wants a fried kebabed snakey. ;)
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Fernando Pierre
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South Africa
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Posted - 17/01/2010 :  08:56:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the thermometer should be 1 inch above the heating mat and the other the same on the cold side


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Posted - 17/01/2010 :  11:15:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fernando Pierre

the thermometer should be 1 inch above the heating mat and the other the same on the cold side



The thermometer needs to take the ground temps- not the air temps- so if you have a digi therm then the probe needs to be ON the substrate or under the substrate over the heat mat- so that you know what the groung temp is.


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LittleMick
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Posted - 17/01/2010 :  15:00:54  Show Profile  Visit LittleMick's Homepage  Click to see LittleMick's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Read this, about heating and temperatures

http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7557&whichpage=1


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Lilpunk
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Posted - 17/01/2010 :  15:50:31  Show Profile  Click to see Lilpunk's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Are you sure you haven't mixed up what they said? As the thermometer should be a inch above the heat mat and the thermostat can be placed at the top...


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Posted - 17/01/2010 :  16:11:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Surley if its an inch above the substrate then it is reading the air temps and not the ground temps where the snake is actually touching?


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Posted - 17/01/2010 :  16:19:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7136&SearchTerms=probe

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Originally posted by gingerpony

the thermometer probe should be on top of the substrate, directly above the heatmat. if you're stuggling to get the temps up high enough in the warm end then you might need to thin out the substrate (depending on what you're using)
then turn the thermostat up or down according to the reading on the digi thermometer and ignore what the stat dial is saying



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gingerpony
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Posted - 17/01/2010 :  22:19:03  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Skorps

quote:
Originally posted by Fernando Pierre

the thermometer should be 1 inch above the heating mat and the other the same on the cold side



The thermometer needs to take the ground temps- not the air temps- so if you have a digi therm then the probe needs to be ON the substrate or under the substrate over the heat mat- so that you know what the groung temp is.


totally agree with Skorps

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gingerpony
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Posted - 17/01/2010 :  22:20:05  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Skorps

Surley if its an inch above the substrate then it is reading the air temps and not the ground temps where the snake is actually touching?


EXACTLY right hun

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Posted - 18/01/2010 :  07:37:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gingerpony

quote:
Originally posted by Skorps

Surley if its an inch above the substrate then it is reading the air temps and not the ground temps where the snake is actually touching?


EXACTLY right hun



Thank-you!

Suddenly doubted myself and had to go and SEARCH for a thread with it mentioned!!

THANK-YOU!!

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Posted - 18/01/2010 :  08:08:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I went to purchase a heat source for this larger viv, the guy at the pet store insisted that I had to have alight. I refused until the mat failed to work. Then I bought the heat lamp and watched Snickers burrow, act crazy trying to get away from it, etc. I went into the computer and read that a constant glowing light stresses the corn snakes. I guess I should go back and try another mat, but the cable is doing well for her. She is still burrowing, but I've read recently in here that it is normal and some of the people even start the holes for them to burrow in. Now I'm back to no light other than what comes in through my window. My living room where Snickers is has an entire wall window, which was the reason I didn't feel a light was necessary.
quote:
Originally posted by lil-legs

also was told that a corn shouldnt have a light yet many of u seem to use them


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Kellog
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Posted - 18/01/2010 :  09:28:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by godzchild9

When I went to purchase a heat source for this larger viv, the guy at the pet store insisted that I had to have alight.



Unfortunately this happens a lot with pet shops and is why we suggest you check anything you are told with the forum. You will be amazed at how often pet shops give wrong and even dangerous advice to newbies who dont know any better .

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gingerpony
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Posted - 18/01/2010 :  22:04:53  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
the problem with shops (even specialist rep shops) is that you're VERY unlikely to get a staff member who is clued up about EVERY species they stock. so you often get a blanket 'one size fits all' kinda talk that might not be accurate for the particular species you're planning to buy

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