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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
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 Posted - 16/11/2009 : 15:32:42
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a nice video but a few little things I noticed-
1. I think you have only had your snake a short amount of time? All new snakes should be given at least a week to settle in to their new surroundings before being fed as well as handled. Make sure not to handle for 2 days after a feed as well.
2. Don't feed straight off the substrate in the viv- if your snake swallows some it can cause an impaction (blockage) in your snake which can result in a serious problem. Either feed in a separate tub lined with newspaper or kitchen towel, or feed off a dish, bowl, or piece of paper or towel in the viv, supervising to make sure no substrate is ingested. If feeding in a separate container it is fine to gently carry them back to the viv afterfood is thoroughly in the body, usually 5-10 minutes after swallowing fully.
3. Just a word of caution relating to the above- some snakes when usually fed in the viv can mistake a hand for food, so trying to handle your snake may get tricky!
4. The substrate in the viv looks very thick- it needn't be any deeper than a couple of centimetres, less over the warm end, as heat wont be able to penetrate the layer. This can result in heat building up near the bottom of the thick layer, and an over heated snakey if decides to go burrowing!
5. In a glass tank, especially a big one, make sure that 2 sides as a minimum are covered to make the snake feel more secure. If this isn't possible then make sure there are plenty of secure hides provided. |
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sexychef
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 15:40:14
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Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 16:45:26
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Just thinking that myself SexyChef.
Looks like sand or another similar gritty substrate. |
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Stumpy
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 16:59:37
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You have all mentioned the things I thought of when watching the video.
If worried about handling the snake after feeding use a sandwich box, place the food in the open box and let snaky feed when it is ready it will leave the box and return to its hide. |
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sexychef
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 17:16:23
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Originally posted by Kehhlyr
Just thinking that myself SexyChef.
Looks like sand or another similar gritty substrate.
looks like damp sand or something! |
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hiper2009
Banned
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 18:56:13
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Looks like he/she is using fish aquarium grit    |
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0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
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HannahB
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 20:31:32
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lovely snake but please change the substrate..any bits of sand caught on the pinkie could cause some serious issues such as impaction which you definitely wouldn't want,
best thing to use is aspen but you can use paper shreddings,my lot love their paper shreddings! it doesnt need to be that thick either,
also you really need to leave for a week before feeding or attempting to handle as the moving to a new home is pretty stressful, a way to get them used to your scent however is to put a small sock or glove in the viv with your scent on, that way he can get used to you without the stresses of handling  |
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 22:02:28
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its not sand it is corn chip made from corn it's not sand or stone will take a pic and put on later
thanks for the concern |
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lucifer
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 23:25:09
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its not sand it is corn chip made from corn it's not sand or stone will take a pic and put on later
thanks for the concern
Corn chip is made from the centre of corn cobs and can swell inside the snake's digestive tract, I would recommend feeding well away from it... Whether that's in a separate tub or on a piece of large kitchen towel inside the viv. |
5.2.0 Cornsnakes: Lucien (Amel), Zero Kiryu (Blizzard), Aura (Butter Stripe), Montana (Normal), Edison (Lavender Stripe), Liberty (Hypo Lavender), Orlando (Anery)
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 23:45:32
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| it say's on the packet idealy for snake ok if swallowed i will post a picture |
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 23:50:35
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Regardless of what it says on the packet it is not really a suitable substrate, a snake may be unable to digest it if it is accidentally eaten and then you get impaction problems as stated above.
I always recommend hemp to be a great substrate for snakes, you can buy it very cheaply and it is perfectly suitable. |
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lucifer
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 23:56:12
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Originally posted by Bioshock
Regardless of what it says on the packet it is not really a suitable substrate, a snake may be unable to digest it if it is accidentally eaten and then you get impaction problems as stated above.
I always recommend hemp to be a great substrate for snakes, you can buy it very cheaply and it is perfectly suitable.
Agreed with bio, anything the snake doesn't need to eat or can't digest should not come into contact with their food. There are many other types of substrate suitable, corn chip substrate moulds very fast... Expect it to stain your vivarium over time, especially near the water bowel or if and when your snake goes to the toilet. |
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 23:57:35
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| well can i keep the snake in that substrate but feed some place diffrent cos that cost a lot of money |
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Posted - 17/11/2009 : 00:05:15
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Personally i would just switch it out for something different, as i said above, hemp is very cheap. I picked up a 20kg bale for £10 and i have hardly made a dent in it even with 4 snakes.
Feeding outside of the viv is recommended even if you have a suitable substrate, so it would certainly lessen any potential risks, but with a substrate that is so small you run the risk of it sticking to a snakes tongue and being eaten anyway. Not a risk i would ever be willing to take as the vets fees will far outweigh any substrate costs. |
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Posted - 17/11/2009 : 00:17:39
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the reptile place were i got it from the bloke has had 30+ years exp and he has a liccence from them aswell in careing for these kind of snake ad more he said this stuff is fine for them so i dont no what to do now bloody hell
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Posted - 17/11/2009 : 00:21:11
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A guy once told me he had 20+years of breeding corn snakes and that they should never be kept on a heat mat, that mat stats were useless and were designed to get to temperature and then turn the mat off until it is at room temperature and continue this way.
Not all information is correct, in this case i would say that the information given was actually a little dangerous. |
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hiper2009
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Posted - 17/11/2009 : 01:48:15
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well can i keep the snake in that substrate but feed some place diffrent cos that cost a lot of money
Well it will cost you more in vet bills if you have to take your snake to a reptile vet due to its ate some corn substrate which will most probly cause a blockage |
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0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/11/2009 : 06:53:15
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Newspaper is free if you can't afford another substrate.
As previously mentioned, your heatmat will be struggling to get any heat through to the snake being that deep. Have you got a thermometer probe on the substrate? - If so, what temp is it at? |
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Posted - 17/11/2009 : 07:31:03
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| the temprture is about 25-27.c and i have thined it out the substate |
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hillzi
The Lost boy.
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/11/2009 : 20:14:15
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If I were you mate, I'd go with BE on the newspaper, i get the train to school daily, and pick up the free newspaper. Does me well!
Depending on where you live, I think it may just be south england that do the Metro, or London Lite, go to your nearest station and see if they have the metro crate! free substrate.
He looks like a great snake, don't worry, we'll help you! If you take what everyone else says on the chin, theyr'e only trying to help and so am I. None of us want to come across as being mean, we have you and your snakes care at heart.
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