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kizzig
Yearling

United Kingdom
560 Posts

Posted - 17/11/2009 :  12:42:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, Ziggy is an Amel and Kizzy is an Amel Motley. (There are some pics somewhere in the pictures thread with some closeups so you can see their markings.)

Motley is a pattern variation and can come with any morph. All motleys and stripes have a completely white underbelly, while all others have the checkerboard underbelly.

The difference between the Amels and Okeetee is that the amels are albino and have no black pigment and therefore have red eyes. The Okeetees have brighter orange coloroung than normals/carolina's and have the black pigment that amels lack, so their eyes also have the black pigment.

The reverse okeetee has white bands instead of black, and I think the reverse okeetees also lack black pigment like the amels and have red eyes (I think reverse okeetee is Amel based...)

Here is a link to the morph bible (I warn you its dangerous to look as you'll want every single morph!) http://iansvivarium.com/cornmorphs.php

The differences are only colour, the temperament etc is individual to each snake.

Kizzig

Kizzig

Our ever growing menagerie:

1.0.0 Amel cornsnake (Ziggy)
0.1.0 Amel motley cornsnake (Kizzy)
1.0.0 Housegecko (Eric)
0.1.0 Chile Rose Tarantula (Daisy) RIP Double D, We'll miss you... xxx
1.0.0 Budgie (Oscar)
0.1.0 Cat (Sophie)
1.1.0 Red Eared Sliders (Sam 'n' Ella)
Assorted Fish - Harry, Artie, Kev and Ebi.

RIP Georgina the Housegecko , Archie the Angelfish (17/09/09), and Daisy the Chile Rose Tarantula (19/11/2009)




Our Animal's Album: http://s986.photobucket.com/albums/ae347/klivingston234/

Edited by - kizzig on 17/11/2009 12:57:35
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Gaz_1989
Yearling

United Kingdom
931 Posts

Posted - 17/11/2009 :  12:52:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, there are some awesome morphs.

I want an Amel, Okeetee, Snow... Lol.

Thanks

Gaz

0.0.1 CB15 Amel Corn - Billy
1.0.0 CB16 Brazilian Rainbow Boa - Hunter
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kizzig
Yearling

United Kingdom
560 Posts

Posted - 17/11/2009 :  12:55:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Would love some Butters! Along with one of everything else!

Kizzig

Our ever growing menagerie:

1.0.0 Amel cornsnake (Ziggy)
0.1.0 Amel motley cornsnake (Kizzy)
1.0.0 Housegecko (Eric)
0.1.0 Chile Rose Tarantula (Daisy) RIP Double D, We'll miss you... xxx
1.0.0 Budgie (Oscar)
0.1.0 Cat (Sophie)
1.1.0 Red Eared Sliders (Sam 'n' Ella)
Assorted Fish - Harry, Artie, Kev and Ebi.

RIP Georgina the Housegecko , Archie the Angelfish (17/09/09), and Daisy the Chile Rose Tarantula (19/11/2009)




Our Animal's Album: http://s986.photobucket.com/albums/ae347/klivingston234/
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Gaz_1989
Yearling

United Kingdom
931 Posts

Posted - 17/11/2009 :  13:24:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The butters are stunning yeh.

Are Amels one of the more common corns?

Also while im asking more questions, in the first week when i cant handle, if he is due a feed half way through, do you feed or not?

Ta

Gaz

0.0.1 CB15 Amel Corn - Billy
1.0.0 CB16 Brazilian Rainbow Boa - Hunter
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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
5319 Posts

Posted - 17/11/2009 :  13:34:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you shouldnt feed him during the settling week, only change his water daily,



Edited by - gmac on 17/11/2009 13:34:37
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Gaz_1989
Yearling

United Kingdom
931 Posts

Posted - 17/11/2009 :  13:37:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay thanks alot.

0.0.1 CB15 Amel Corn - Billy
1.0.0 CB16 Brazilian Rainbow Boa - Hunter
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kizzig
Yearling

United Kingdom
560 Posts

Posted - 17/11/2009 :  18:12:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some people also say that putting a used sock or old piece of clothing in the viv helps the snake become accustomed to your smell.

As gmac said, hold off on the feeding until he/she has settled in. Change the water daily and give the substrate a bit of a flatten, this should also allow snakey to get used to your hand being in and out of the viv.

Also, if you feed in a seperate container, the snake is less likely to strike at you when you're in the viv. If fed in the viv, some snakes associate a hand coming in with food! (And feeding in a seperate box also eliminates the chance of snakey ingesting any substrate and becoming impacted.)

Bet you're counting the days!

Kizzig

Our ever growing menagerie:

1.0.0 Amel cornsnake (Ziggy)
0.1.0 Amel motley cornsnake (Kizzy)
1.0.0 Housegecko (Eric)
0.1.0 Chile Rose Tarantula (Daisy) RIP Double D, We'll miss you... xxx
1.0.0 Budgie (Oscar)
0.1.0 Cat (Sophie)
1.1.0 Red Eared Sliders (Sam 'n' Ella)
Assorted Fish - Harry, Artie, Kev and Ebi.

RIP Georgina the Housegecko , Archie the Angelfish (17/09/09), and Daisy the Chile Rose Tarantula (19/11/2009)




Our Animal's Album: http://s986.photobucket.com/albums/ae347/klivingston234/
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Gaz_1989
Yearling

United Kingdom
931 Posts

Posted - 17/11/2009 :  18:34:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have thought about putting a gym glove in the faun while hes settling in (i go the gym every day so they are pretty sweaty and smelly, lol).

Also i havent made my mind up how best to feed.

I wanted to feed outside the viv but then some people said about it being an un-familuar place and might put the snake off feeding.
I considered getting a cat litter tray or something similar and use that for feeding in. What do most people do?

If you do feed outside the viv/faun, what would be the procedure for putting him back in the faun? Is it the food lump in the snake that you cant touch?

Thanks alot

Gaz

0.0.1 CB15 Amel Corn - Billy
1.0.0 CB16 Brazilian Rainbow Boa - Hunter
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kizzig
Yearling

United Kingdom
560 Posts

Posted - 17/11/2009 :  19:35:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We feed in a sandwich box at the moment, but we'll have to upgrade soon! Others use RUB's for feeding, especially the larger snakes.

You can lift the snake back into the viv, but very gently, supporting the snake without touching the bump and he/she should be fine!

Think the gym glove will do the trick!

Kizzig

Our ever growing menagerie:

1.0.0 Amel cornsnake (Ziggy)
0.1.0 Amel motley cornsnake (Kizzy)
1.0.0 Housegecko (Eric)
0.1.0 Chile Rose Tarantula (Daisy) RIP Double D, We'll miss you... xxx
1.0.0 Budgie (Oscar)
0.1.0 Cat (Sophie)
1.1.0 Red Eared Sliders (Sam 'n' Ella)
Assorted Fish - Harry, Artie, Kev and Ebi.

RIP Georgina the Housegecko , Archie the Angelfish (17/09/09), and Daisy the Chile Rose Tarantula (19/11/2009)




Our Animal's Album: http://s986.photobucket.com/albums/ae347/klivingston234/
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Gaz_1989
Yearling

United Kingdom
931 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2009 :  08:31:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheers Kizzig.

Seen as this is the intro thread, just wanna say what a great forum this is.

Every question has been answered and ive had some great responses and advice.

Thanks to all

Gaz

0.0.1 CB15 Amel Corn - Billy
1.0.0 CB16 Brazilian Rainbow Boa - Hunter
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kizzig
Yearling

United Kingdom
560 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2009 :  09:12:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's what we're here for! Friendship, help and advice

Kizzig

Our ever growing menagerie:

1.0.0 Amel cornsnake (Ziggy)
0.1.0 Amel motley cornsnake (Kizzy)
1.0.0 Housegecko (Eric)
0.1.0 Chile Rose Tarantula (Daisy) RIP Double D, We'll miss you... xxx
1.0.0 Budgie (Oscar)
0.1.0 Cat (Sophie)
1.1.0 Red Eared Sliders (Sam 'n' Ella)
Assorted Fish - Harry, Artie, Kev and Ebi.

RIP Georgina the Housegecko , Archie the Angelfish (17/09/09), and Daisy the Chile Rose Tarantula (19/11/2009)




Our Animal's Album: http://s986.photobucket.com/albums/ae347/klivingston234/

Edited by - kizzig on 18/11/2009 09:26:21
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Kellog
the nice one

United Kingdom
7308 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2009 :  10:40:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just want to echo what Kizzig has said....that is what we are all here for, the friendship as well as the support and advice.

Although I think giving you that link to iansvivarium was really cruel!!! All it does is make you begin listing what corns you want next...which is what has happened.

Kizzig - you put temptation in a newbies path, leading them down towards addiction!! Dont do it again!!!

()

xxx


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kizzig
Yearling

United Kingdom
560 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2009 :  11:07:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Haha, I know... We're such a bad influence!

Kizzig

Our ever growing menagerie:

1.0.0 Amel cornsnake (Ziggy)
0.1.0 Amel motley cornsnake (Kizzy)
1.0.0 Housegecko (Eric)
0.1.0 Chile Rose Tarantula (Daisy) RIP Double D, We'll miss you... xxx
1.0.0 Budgie (Oscar)
0.1.0 Cat (Sophie)
1.1.0 Red Eared Sliders (Sam 'n' Ella)
Assorted Fish - Harry, Artie, Kev and Ebi.

RIP Georgina the Housegecko , Archie the Angelfish (17/09/09), and Daisy the Chile Rose Tarantula (19/11/2009)




Our Animal's Album: http://s986.photobucket.com/albums/ae347/klivingston234/
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Gaz_1989
Yearling

United Kingdom
931 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2009 :  12:49:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
haha, yeh im heading towards the addiction already.

My name is Gareth, And i am a corn Snake-Aholic! Lol.

I am already planning one of them 3 tier vivarium stacks! haha.

Gaz

0.0.1 CB15 Amel Corn - Billy
1.0.0 CB16 Brazilian Rainbow Boa - Hunter
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 20/11/2009 :  12:30:23  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
heya and welcome

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

Location:Leeds/York/Selby area
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Posted - 20/11/2009 :  16:53:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hey! welcome
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