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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  15:50:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

1. Instructions say, "position the ministat sensor in the vivarium approx 225mm away from the heat source" and goes on to explain it should measure air temp rather than direct heat, BUT it also says, "When using a ministat 100 the temperature probe should be placd in the centre of the heat mat."
I'm getting really confused here.. what's the difference between a sensor and a probe? Where should I place what? Directly on the mat? somewhere in the viv? The viv measures, in cm, 32.5x22.5x18 and another problem is that it's a plastic box with no adequate holes for such a thick cable!

2. To what temp should I set the thermostat?

Any help appreciated...


matty18714
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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  15:56:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ignore everything the stat instructions say. Is your heat mat underneath the plastic tank? (it should be). Tape the probe (sensor is the same thing) directly to the heat mat. Plug the heat mat into the socket on the stat and plug the stat into the mains.

Then just change the stat dial until the temperatre measured above the mat is about 29*C. Ignore the numbers on the stat.

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sexychef
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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  15:57:46  Show Profile  Click to see sexychef's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
right the probe should go ontop or just under the substrate around the center of the heat mat.

and to set the temp you need a digi thermometer to calabrate it as the numbers on the dial of the stat really match up.

sorry my directions are for use with a wooden viv




Edited by - sexychef on 24/08/2009 15:59:14
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inkiepixie
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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  16:03:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If the heat mat is outisde the viv the temp probe should be on the mat and NOT inside the viv?

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matty18714
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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  16:06:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If she in a platic faun/tub, its alot more practicle and a bit more accurate, but it doesnt make a huge amount of differance.

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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  16:08:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Matty, is this correct?

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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  16:10:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Explanation: the white wire is the stat probe. The black one inside belongs to the thermometer.
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matty18714
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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  16:11:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Take the thermostat probe out of the tank and tape it directly onto the heat mat (outside the tank). Have you digital thermometer probe lying in the substrate above the heat mat (inside the tank).

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matty18714
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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  16:20:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


S = stat
T = thermometer
The orange is substrate.

Hope this helps.


Edited by - matty18714 on 24/08/2009 16:20:34
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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  16:26:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's now set up as in the new picture: stat probe taped to mat outside viv.

What you see inside viv is a digital thermometer probe.


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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  16:31:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's another thing: I don't see how I can set a temp gradient of 21-30 in such a small viv.

I really want to do what's right and am getting quite worried now.

On a positive note: he doesn't shy away any more when a hand goes in to change his water. It's been five days since we brought him home.
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matty18714
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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  16:53:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You wont have any problems with a temperature gradient with a heat mat because they only heat the surfaces they touch.

What is the reading on the thermometer? If thats reading in the high 20's, the 9area under the substrate will be very hot. I would move some of the substrate away from the area covering the mat to allow for more heat to come up.

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Stumpy
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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  17:44:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Most Reptiles absorb the heat from contact with a warm surface like rocks in the wild, some warmth comes from direct sunlight.
As long as the viv temp is not too high or too low the temp gradient will come from the surface.

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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  18:22:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok. I've removed some substrate. Left 2cm in warm end, 3cm in cool end. Thermo probes now touching the substrate and read 27.9 and 27.3. Isn't cool end too warm?

Snakey is in a favourite spot on the cool side, which isn't at the bottom but on top of what looks like a chunk of tree, which has some "bark" covering. In other words, he prefers this spot as a cool side hide rather than the hide he has at the bottom. Possibly because it's cooler up there?

Here is a pic I tood a couple of days ago, it shows that "tree" arrangement he likes to go on top of/into:



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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  19:02:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the heat probably wont penatrate all that beech you got there, could be why you have the same temps at both ends, thin it out a bit over the mat


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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  21:54:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've thinned it out at the warm end. Still not much of a temp difference: 28.0, 26.3.

Earlier he was going active in the warm end (not sure what he's up to right this minutes) but still prefers resting in the cool end.


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SexyBear77
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Posted - 24/08/2009 :  21:56:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cold makes snakes lethargic, heat makes them active.

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