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hillzi
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 Posted - 10/08/2009 : 13:54:17
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the witch hunt will be next, just like it is on dogs that look like pits... |
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/08/2009 : 14:02:11
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| Agree with you, especially as there are so many people out there who have a fear of snakes never having encountered one or tried to learn anything about them. I hate the way we are all stereotyped into chavs who have snakes to look 'hard'..... I use Kellog to educate anyone who comes round and just today had a friend who is terrified of snakes sitting with her little boy on her lap while he stroked Kellog. But unfortunately there are those owners out there who give us a bad name, just the same as with dog owners. We just have to remain calm and try to educate as many people as possible, and certainly not respond like the cat-eating python owner! xxx |
  
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hillzi
The Lost boy.
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/08/2009 : 16:10:03
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the witch hunt will be next, just like it is on dogs that look like pits...
the link in my sig is that exactly.
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Posted - 10/08/2009 : 16:35:49
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Its an american thing but could be the start of something bigger
Python Ban HR 2811
House Judiciary Committee to hear python ban bill.
The House Judiciary Council is expected to hold hearings this week on a bill that would ban trade in pythons.
Specifically, a markup session on HR 2811, a companion bill to S. 373, will be held July 28 and a full hearing on either July 29 or 30, according to the Pet Industry Joint Advisory Council (PIJAC).
The legislation would add “the constrictor snake of the species Python genera” to the Lacey Act as an injurious species that would be “prohibited from being shipped or imported into the United States.”
However, PIJAC (Welcome to PIJAC | Pet Industry Joint Advisory Council) warned the bill would have broader consequences, as the Lacey Act also prohibits exports and interstate movement of listed species.
Moreover, the legislation as written would cover all species of python, including the common pet ball pythons, rather than just the Burmese python that is of concern in Florida.
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Posted - 10/08/2009 : 17:20:08
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there's different versions of this story in different papers lol hmmm what do they say about believing things you read in the press |
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Posted - 10/08/2009 : 17:24:42
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Originally posted by wolfspirit
the witch hunt will be next, just like it is on dogs that look like pits...
the link in my sig is that exactly.
BLAME THE DEED, NOT THE BREED.
I've just signed the petition |
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devilsmistress
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/08/2009 : 17:52:56
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It winds me up when People blame the animal, its down to the owner. My sister has a bitball cross called Lucy. She is the doopyist dog ever. Her 4 kids are always playing rough with her (not nasty) and she loves it. Yea she has pitball in her and they are ment to be a banned breed. She only got her cos she is classed as a mongrel. So it proves if 4 kids can pull a pitball around and are safe with her, She has been bought up right. My sister has had her since birth, then its the way animal are taught and cared for in my opinion.
As for my Bam he now hates me, but im sure he will get over it!! Even if it did affect him and he became a nasty snake, id never force him on someone, or chase someone with him, its cruel to the person and the animal!
Sorry for my rant but I am an animal lover and hate it when I read or find out an animal has been mistreated, forced to act to defend its self, then gets labled as being a danger. |
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Posted - 10/08/2009 : 19:23:16
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| It's a sad thing when idiots get animals to frighten people they cant. I dont think it will be long before the call comes for all rep keepers to have a wildlife licence, troub;e is, only responsible owners will get them. Exactly what happened with dogs when we had to have a licence for them. Not sure what the answer is. How about a ban on idiots buying snakes and reps, do you think that would work? |
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Posted - 10/08/2009 : 19:27:40
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It winds me up when People blame the animal, its down to the owner. My sister has a bitball cross called Lucy. She is the doopyist dog ever. Her 4 kids are always playing rough with her (not nasty) and she loves it. Yea she has pitball in her and they are ment to be a banned breed. She only got her cos she is classed as a mongrel. So it proves if 4 kids can pull a pitball around and are safe with her, She has been bought up right. My sister has had her since birth, then its the way animal are taught and cared for in my opinion.
As for my Bam he now hates me, but im sure he will get over it!! Even if it did affect him and he became a nasty snake, id never force him on someone, or chase someone with him, its cruel to the person and the animal!
Sorry for my rant but I am an animal lover and hate it when I read or find out an animal has been mistreated, forced to act to defend its self, then gets labled as being a danger.
I hope your sister does not live in the UK, cos the police will take it and put it to sleep...
anything remotely that can be said is pit or has a pit look does not sadly stand a chance.. |
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devilsmistress
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/08/2009 : 19:37:42
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| Yea She does, She has had her at the vets, and the RSPCA called on her because of it, but because they cant garentee its pitball they wont put her down. She went through hell and high water when she first got her. It did come close to the dog being put down, I dont know all he details but the dog is still alive and has been certified safe. |
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/08/2009 : 20:32:57
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| I wont even start on this subject, because if I do I wont shut up. It makes me sick when animals are put down because of bad handling and training. |
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inkiepixie
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/08/2009 : 21:30:08
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I wont even start on this subject, because if I do I wont shut up. It makes me sick when animals are put down because of bad handling and training.
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Posted - 10/08/2009 : 22:55:28
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| Just after the incident with the toddler getting killed by a pitbull authorities called an amnesty, pitbull owners weren't prosecuted if they handed their dogs in for testing, thse found to be pits were temperament tested, all the dogs that were properley cared for and trained were certified as safe and returned to the owners, thse that werent were put down. I think this is a much better way of handling the situation, these dogs can be dangerous in the wrong hands but they can also make amazing companions, just look at Ceasar Millans pack of pitbulls, if thats nt proof I dont know what is!!! I just hope they dont start banning snakes because of a few careless individuals :( although in florida they are trying to ban pet pythons because if they escape they can live quite happily in the wild, but damage the delicate ecosystem since they are not native. There Ive had my say lol! |
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Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/08/2009 : 23:33:35
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I used to own a rotty, she was a beautiful dog, so thick she made 2 short planks look like a computer.
Anyways, I dunno if anyone can remember about that child getting killed by a rotty in a pub, it wasn't long after that that my ex decided to phone social services on us, because we had a 'dangerous, vicious' rottweiler.
We then had a larger house and had my extended family living with us, which included 2 young children 3+4 and a baby.
They came round because of the 'risk' because of the report of a dangerous dog. When they turned up Chloe, my step-grandaughter, was putting her hand in the dogs mouth to remove the ball out that she was playing fetch with.
I'm sorry to say, but I agree with most of the above statements. It's HOW the dog (or any animal for that matter) is brought up that makes the difference. Our rotty came to us when we had 2 8 year old miniature poodles and she thought she was a lap dog as well. 10 stone of stupid dribbly rotty trying to get on your lap for a fuss was something to see. |
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devilsmistress
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/08/2009 : 10:17:49
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| Thanks fot the info Natilie Sigleton, Sounds like what my sister went through. Like I said I never know the full story, I rember them takeing The dog away for the week, My sister was in tears as She said she might not get her back. Then she turned up with her and some paper work! It was a really bad time for my sis so no one really asked her any questions. |
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hillzi
The Lost boy.
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/08/2009 : 10:45:51
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I agree, there should be a test that vets/rspca issue pits to test their temperment, and every other breed of dog as any dog can be vicious.
But this is just stupid. also people should be tested if they have enough brain cells to care for an animal, be it snake.. dog.. |
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/08/2009 : 10:54:07
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| my neighbour has a rotty, bred as a working dog, and its the dopiest, friendliest dog ever. she tries to get on your lap too. |
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
7308 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2009 : 11:43:06
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I was bitten by a doberman badly on my face, had to have a plastic surgeon put in over 50 stiches. Had known the dog for years, neighbour's pet, and they were good owners. After biting me, the next day it klled the dog next door and was put down. No one knew what happened, why he suddenly became vicious.
I do think maybe there should be a system where pet owners are visited by RSPCA on surprise basis, any pet owner, so the RSPCA can see the situation the pet is in and how it is handled - but I know they dont have the facilities for doing that. I know they do inspections before placing a rescued dog....and I would certainly be happy to be inspected for my ability to own a dog and a snake, I have nothing to hide! xxx |
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lucifer
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/08/2009 : 14:30:39
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| The RSPCA need more resources for stuff like that Kellog, they need a system like in the USA where they are state funded bodies with powers to arrest, detain and prosecute like the police. |
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Posted - 11/08/2009 : 14:47:10
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What annoys me about this snake story is the fact they have a picture of a python that is most definitely not green but the boy who was attacked says the snake was green so wtf !
I’m fed up off people claiming the snake is one thing and being completely different! In the evening post today they have no picture of the snake but the dude thinks it was a boa constrictor OR a python but still thinks is green ! ... almost every single snake attack story I have read includes the victim saying it is a boa constrictor.. It just shows their ignorance!
i understand that not everybody knows about the different species of snake and don’t get me wrong I’m no expert in species of snakes, but I know the difference between a boa constrictor and a green snake! I just wish people would stop guessing and actually do some research.
I think the snake was a Green Tree Python because firstly its green  and secondly they reach about 4-5 ft
I pray to God that the American law is not legalised just in case they want to do the same over here in the UK with the Dangerous Wild Animals Act ! its bad enough the owners of that cat who got eaten by a burm want to ban boa constrictors and all pythons ! I’ve know many people who keep royal pythons who reach 4-5 ft as you guys know, and they are NOT dangerous, the odd bite happens and they can’t kill you so why put them on the dangerous wild animals act!
and with the case of the cat being eaten by the burm the other week .. I feel sorry for the owners but why the hell are cats allowed to go into other peoples gardens because firstly they end up defecating all over the place which is not nice ! And secondly its someone else’s property.. I know that you cannot train a cat not to go into other peoples gardens and that cats have their own rules when it comes to "who owns what" with other cats in the area, but its annoying to wake up in the morning to find a pile ofpoopon your stones and a cat sitting on YOUR garden wall! That burm had the right to b in its owners garden its just a shame that the dude left him/her outside alone!
sorry for the rant but I’m fed up of un-educated people thinking all snakes are the same, stating the snake who attacked them was a boa constrictor without actually knowing the species who attacked them, and then trying to ban then. And im fed up of owners treating them like a weapon and not understanding the consequences to all rep keepers ! |
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Another bad name for the herps.
