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Tizzy
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/07/2009 :  21:04:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My babies are now over 2 weeks old and only one has eaten - and that one only once.

Temps are fine they have hides all the noob stuff is covered, anyone have any ideas??? Tried leaving brained pinkys in overnight and left it 3-5 days between each attempt but getting worried now.

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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 21/07/2009 :  23:11:14  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
what do you keep the hatchlings in?


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Tizzy
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
1202 Posts

Posted - 22/07/2009 :  08:09:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They are in cricket boxes, inside a viv rack one end of each box is resting on a mat (1/4 - 1/2)

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dazb
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
1278 Posts

Posted - 22/07/2009 :  09:06:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wot have you tried...?
Are they kept individualy?
Have they done their first shed yet?

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Tizzy
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/07/2009 :  14:49:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tried leaving them to it, braining them, and wiping mouse brain on their noses to see if they get the idea.
Yes they are housed individualy,
Yes they had all shed before i tried to feed them.

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Brookestar
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2361 Posts

Posted - 22/07/2009 :  16:46:52  Show Profile  Click to see Brookestar's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i read in a book if you poke the mouses head against the body (not the head) of the snake it provokes them so the eat the mouse.
drastic but worth a try xD
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Tizzy
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
1202 Posts

Posted - 22/07/2009 :  17:27:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks i'll give it a go next time, the one who had fed ate again last night but the others have shown no interest at all. How long should i be leaving them between attempts? they hatched 4/5th july.

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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 22/07/2009 :  23:38:20  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brookestar

i read in a book if you poke the mouses head against the body (not the head) of the snake it provokes them so the eat the mouse.
drastic but worth a try xD



that probably won't work with a hatchling, because it will just spook them into trying to run away :(

soaking pinkys in tuna juice i've heard is a quite successful method.

also cover the boxes so they are in darkness - it will be like one big hide so it will give more security


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Brookestar
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/07/2009 :  09:35:15  Show Profile  Click to see Brookestar's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
so is mine a method for adults? the book didnt specify what age
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness

United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/07/2009 :  17:17:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brookestar

so is mine a method for adults? the book didnt specify what age



Not specificaly, but its less likly to spook an adult.

Good luck Tizzy, I would try scenting with various things.

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Tizzy
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/07/2009 :  22:35:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks again guys, i've left them alone and i'm gonna try scenting tomorrow, (the cat will be pleased as he's the only one who likes tuna) - also gonna try rat and chick scenting. Anymore advice greatfully recieved.

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Brookestar
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/07/2009 :  23:39:00  Show Profile  Click to see Brookestar's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
how about tails of large mice or rats?
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KITTYCAT
Hatchling

United Kingdom
492 Posts

Posted - 16/08/2009 :  11:20:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi there i read that hatchling dont normally feed till after there first shed.

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Posted - 16/08/2009 :  12:59:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi when i first got one of my hatchlings it wouldnt eat for 2 weeks i just kept offering a pinkie every 4 days and eventually she got hungry enough to start eating:)

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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/08/2009 :  18:49:12  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KITTYCAT

hi there i read that hatchling dont normally feed till after there first shed.


yeah we already covered that one if you read the thread.................

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Tizzy
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
1202 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2009 :  20:04:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well these 3 non feeders are now 6 weeks old and each of them has only taken one Mouse tail. They are still active and drinking but are very skinny now making the chances of them taking a proper feed slim. We're gonna keep trying the tails but i think they may have just been too small. These weighed in at 4g when hatched and my second cluch were between 7-9g and looked huge!!!

Neither tuna or chick scenting have worked so if anyone has any more ideas i'm still looking for advice.

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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/08/2009 :  13:55:00  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
its a bit gruesome, but i think its maybe time to assist feed a pinky head


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Tizzy
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/08/2009 :  19:55:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well we had tried assit feeding before and it had not worked, tonight we took the last resort of force feeding,

Each of the 3 non feeders has had a pinky head and the tail of a medium mouse. This is not something i would recommend but the largest snake who was 6g had gone down to just 4g and the smallest one was getting so thin it looked like a match stick.

Again this was THE LAST RESORT these babies are now over 6 weeks old and would die soon, i have spoken to a couple of breaders, rep shops and a vet who were not willing to help really just saying it's natures way blah blah...they don't all make it etc etc. I was also told you couldn't force feed hatchlings without breaking their necks but i have so HA HA. I guess it's a waiting game now to see if they keep down what they have eaten.

I'm not ready to give up on these babies yet!


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lee2308
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/08/2009 :  20:31:18  Show Profile  Click to see lee2308's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
best of luck with them tizzy


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hillzi
The Lost boy.

United Kingdom
3984 Posts

Posted - 18/08/2009 :  20:56:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
good lass tizzy, whats crueler is letting them starve to death
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Tizzy
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
1202 Posts

Posted - 19/08/2009 :  12:20:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well they have all kept the food down, and all are looking bright and alert today so fingers crossed. I just hope that afetr the trauma of force feeding they will eventually feed on their own.

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