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jelstone26
Egg
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 09/10/2013 : 14:09:31
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| please could somebody tell me what i would get if i bred an anery motley to a gold dust motley? i guess motley het for something but i don't know what. |
0.1.0 fire corn snake (slinky)
1.0.0 max normal motley corn snake
0.1.0 freya ghost corn snake
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Razee
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2525 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2013 : 14:36:43
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| Yep, unless both parents have some other hets/ genes, you'd get normal motleys, 100% het anery, amel, ultra and caramel. The ultra gene is a hybrid gene ( though very, very low 100% ) , so in theory all the hatchlings would be hybrids. |
0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
0.1.0 house cat |
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jelstone26
Egg
United Kingdom
69 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2013 : 14:57:17
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Originally posted by Razee
Yep, unless both parents have some other hets/ genes, you'd get normal motleys, 100% het anery, amel, ultra and caramel. The ultra gene is a hybrid gene ( though very, very low 100% ) , so in theory all the hatchlings would be hybrids.
thanks for such a thorough answer razee. so if i bred those what should i sell the offspring as? |
0.1.0 fire corn snake (slinky)
1.0.0 max normal motley corn snake
0.1.0 freya ghost corn snake
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Razee
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2525 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2013 : 16:26:40
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Difficult, they'd be 99% corn snakes, but I'd definitely mention the ultra gene, as many people consider anything with ultra gene a hybrid ( very strictly speaking, it is ).
If you kept male and female baby and bred them together, you' d get lots of different combos.... |
0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
0.1.0 house cat |
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jelstone26
Egg
United Kingdom
69 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2013 : 16:28:44
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| ok. thanks again razee. |
0.1.0 fire corn snake (slinky)
1.0.0 max normal motley corn snake
0.1.0 freya ghost corn snake
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Razee
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2525 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2013 : 17:03:50
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| No probs :-) . If you want to have a play with corncalc, it will give you the exact % you'd get, if you were to breed the babies. |
0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
0.1.0 house cat |
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jelstone26
Egg
United Kingdom
69 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2013 : 19:41:30
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Originally posted by Razee
No probs :-) . If you want to have a play with corncalc, it will give you the exact % you'd get, if you were to breed the babies.
thanks, i just tried reptilecalculator.com and it spat out 27 different combo's does that sound about right? seems quite alot. |
0.1.0 fire corn snake (slinky)
1.0.0 max normal motley corn snake
0.1.0 freya ghost corn snake
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2013 : 19:44:56
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Originally posted by Razee
Yep, unless both parents have some other hets/ genes, you'd get normal motleys, 100% het anery, amel, ultra and caramel. The ultra gene is a hybrid gene ( though very, very low 100% ) , so in theory all the hatchlings would be hybrids.
they would be normal motleys, 100% het aner and caramel and either het ultra or amel. Cant be het for both ;) they share the same place on the gene ladder and are co dom with each other so would be ultramels.
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Originally posted by Razee
No probs :-) . If you want to have a play with corncalc, it will give you the exact % you'd get, if you were to breed the babies.
may seem im being picky but the calc doesnt give you the exact % you would get it will give you the % chance per egg, there is no exacts in breeding with recessive genes |
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jelstone26
Egg
United Kingdom
69 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2013 : 19:48:08
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Originally posted by gmac
quote:
Originally posted by Razee
Yep, unless both parents have some other hets/ genes, you'd get normal motleys, 100% het anery, amel, ultra and caramel. The ultra gene is a hybrid gene ( though very, very low 100% ) , so in theory all the hatchlings would be hybrids.
they would be normal motleys, 100% het anery and caramel and either het ultra or amel. Cant be het for both ;) ultra and amel share the same place on the gene ladder and are co dom with each other so impossible to be het for both.
ah i see so that would be why i could only choose one or the other on reptilecalculator.com |
0.1.0 fire corn snake (slinky)
1.0.0 max normal motley corn snake
0.1.0 freya ghost corn snake
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/10/2013 : 08:51:43
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| Of course bear in mind that there is every possibility that your snakes have hidden hets too - so you may get some surprises as well! |
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jelstone26
Egg
United Kingdom
69 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2013 : 10:39:06
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Originally posted by smart bunny
Of course bear in mind that there is every possibility that your snakes have hidden hets too - so you may get some surprises as well!
oh thats definitely in mind smart bunny  . whatever happens when it comes time to start breeding it's going to be quite exciting. |
0.1.0 fire corn snake (slinky)
1.0.0 max normal motley corn snake
0.1.0 freya ghost corn snake
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Razee
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2525 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2013 : 20:23:45
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Gmac's right, of course, nothing is exact where genetics/ multi genes are involved, I wasn't quite clear about that :-)
Re ultramel - I forgot about the co - dom :-0 -so, if it's not utramel or utra, and is just showing the amel ( therefore not carry for ultra gene ), would they still be classified as hybrid? What I mean, would they still carry some grey rat snake genes, if they're not ultra? My guess would be yes ?
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0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
0.1.0 house cat |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2013 : 22:11:08
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| Razee, there is still so much discussion going on about the ultra gene i reckon it will never ever be resolved. so as long as anything that may have ultra in it is sold as such i see no issues as its fo far into the corn gene pool now dont think it makes any odds |
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