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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1773 Posts |
 Posted - 24/09/2013 : 16:13:50
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Not sure if there is a recent post to this but im curious. How do you guys feel about sibling breeding? In years to come im hoping to create a certain morph but to do this i would need to breed my clutch mates together. Is this good or bad in snakes? Can it create irregularities etc?
Any info greatly appreciated :) Thank you. |
Albino Addiction ... <3
0.1.0 - Creamsicle Cornsnake (Mo)
1.0.0 - Bubblegum Snow Corn (Gabriel)
1.0.0 - Lavendar 100% Het Hypo Corn (Ezra)
1.0.0 - Bairds Rat Snake (Lazarus)
0.0.1 - Crested Gecko (Pan) |
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LukeW
Hatchling
United Kingdom
276 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2013 : 16:32:06
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| Snakes aren't like other animals, inbreeding doesn't really have an affect, some will say you got more chance of the babies being kinked but there is no proof to back this up, if it wasn't for inbreeding we wouldn't have half the morphs we have around today :) |
Female normal - Cyrus (can't think of a girl name :p)
Male charcoal - Midnight
Female amel - Lilly
Female CB13 anery 100% het sunkissed - Ariel.
Male CB13 fire 100% het stripe, 50% het hypo, anery and lavender
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oakleyman18
Yearling
828 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2013 : 16:58:11
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Inbreeding is common pratice "where necessary", in order to produce sought after offspring. For example, Palmetto "caught in wild" (I'm still not sold), which is then bred to a normal. All normals are het Palmetto, and then bred together in order to produce Palmetto's again.
It should be used sparingly though, and shouldn't be common practice year on year, because genetic problems can creep in down the line. Brother and Sister I'd say is fine, but then putting those subsequent babies together I'd avoid. Try to keep it to as little as possible. |
Oscar Morrell
0.1.0. Tessera het Caramel Diffused Hypo ph Amel Anery CB'12 "Cassi", 0.1.0. Diffused Powder CB'12 "Ruby"
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender CB'11 "Amber", 1.0.0. Lavender Stripe het Diffused Anery Amel Hypo CB'11 "Pluto"
1.0.0. Hypo Opal Ph Stripe CB'12 "Hops", 1.0.0. Caramel Stripe het Amel CB'08 "Jasper", 1.0.0. Opal Stripe het Anery CB'09 "Topaz"
0.1.0. Amel Stripe het Caramel CB'09 "Poppy", 0.1.0. Tessera het Amel Lavender Stripe ph Diffused Hypo Anery CB'12 "Amethyst" |
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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1773 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2013 : 17:23:44
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| Thank you for the input :) |
Albino Addiction ... <3
0.1.0 - Creamsicle Cornsnake (Mo)
1.0.0 - Bubblegum Snow Corn (Gabriel)
1.0.0 - Lavendar 100% Het Hypo Corn (Ezra)
1.0.0 - Bairds Rat Snake (Lazarus)
0.0.1 - Crested Gecko (Pan) |
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Isoldael
Yearling
Netherlands
999 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2013 : 20:31:53
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I prefer not to do any inbreeding at all. People used to think this about a multitude of species "oooh, it's fine, it doesn't have any effect on these species" until, a few decades later, they look back and think "we should have known better". Huge health issues have appeared in inbred lines of so many species that I don't think it's safe to say it doesn't have an effect on corns - how would we know?
If used sparingly, it shouldn't have such huge consequences, but I'd still rather not do it at all (and I know I won't, with my snakes). |
1.0 anery stripe (Nash)
1.0 hypo pewter (Loki)
1.0 bloodred het amel, charcoal, hypo, stripe 50% phet anery, lavender (Kasumi)
0.1 grey background normal het amel (Saphira)
0.1 tessera het amel, anery, stripe (Lilith)
0.1 amel (Aurora)
0.1 hypo bloodred het anery, charcoal, stripe 50% phet amel, lavender (Mara)
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2013 : 22:29:34
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| it all went pear shaped for bloodred corns when they were first out because they were so vigorously line bred to keep the deep red colouration. It wasn't until they were out crossed things settled down. Of course this out crossing lost the nice colour but healthier animals resulted. |
Forum - Guide to Cornsnake Morphs - Punnett Square Calculator - Breeder Directory
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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1773 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2013 : 23:06:42
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| Thanks :) |
Albino Addiction ... <3
0.1.0 - Creamsicle Cornsnake (Mo)
1.0.0 - Bubblegum Snow Corn (Gabriel)
1.0.0 - Lavendar 100% Het Hypo Corn (Ezra)
1.0.0 - Bairds Rat Snake (Lazarus)
0.0.1 - Crested Gecko (Pan) |
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Coal
Hatchling
449 Posts |
Posted - 25/09/2013 : 08:54:10
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| I have heard that repeated inbreeding over multiple generations can lead to reduced fertility both in terms of number of fertile eggs laid and number of those eggs surviving to hatching, as well as to smaller average hatchling size, not to mention the increased risk of genetic deformity, though these may have been exaggerated by some sources and definitely aren't likely to be noticeable in one or two generations |
'Lovecraft' - CB12 male amel
'Sarnath' - CB13 male KSB (anery, het. albino) |
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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1773 Posts |
Posted - 25/09/2013 : 12:20:22
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i wasnt going to do it for many generations. my hopeful future plan was. if theyre compatable, amel x lavender 100% het hypo = (amongst other things) normal het amel, lavender, 50% het hypo.
Breed two of my multiple het normals and i may get opals :) as lav x amel = opal.
I may have this all wrong but that was my hope.
Please anyone correct me. |
Albino Addiction ... <3
0.1.0 - Creamsicle Cornsnake (Mo)
1.0.0 - Bubblegum Snow Corn (Gabriel)
1.0.0 - Lavendar 100% Het Hypo Corn (Ezra)
1.0.0 - Bairds Rat Snake (Lazarus)
0.0.1 - Crested Gecko (Pan) |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
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