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Sara3502
Hatchling
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 Posted - 25/08/2013 : 21:23:36
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Hey people! About 2 months ago I posed one of these, and it was still unclear as to what her morph was; and since she has shed twice now maybe it'll be easier. So heres some new photos! :D
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 25/08/2013 : 21:32:15
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diffused
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5091 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2013 : 09:04:22
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| Still diffused ;) |
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3315 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2013 : 12:31:36
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Yup, still looks diffused to me too  |
2.4.0 Corn snakes
1.0.0 horse
0.1.0 Golden retriever
1.4.0 Guinea pigs |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2013 : 15:50:21
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| I think we need Eeji on this one... She has too much pattern on her side for a diffused and I see black specks on her stomach... |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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oakleyman18
Yearling
828 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2013 : 16:59:14
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I agree with Angel on this- there is still quite a lot of pattern on the sides, with very little Diffusion. I've had at least 3 Masque babies hatch this year with little/no patterning, and I "suspect" this may be happening here too. The baby is definitely Masque, so we just need to try and ascertain whether it's a very low expression diffused, or a Masqued normal.
This is why I did the post on Masque in the morph section, because sometimes it can be confused with diffused- and ends in sadness a lot of the time! |
Oscar Morrell
0.1.0. Tessera het Caramel Diffused Hypo ph Amel Anery CB'12 "Cassi", 0.1.0. Diffused Powder CB'12 "Ruby"
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender CB'11 "Amber", 1.0.0. Lavender Stripe het Diffused Anery Amel Hypo CB'11 "Pluto"
1.0.0. Hypo Opal Ph Stripe CB'12 "Hops", 1.0.0. Caramel Stripe het Amel CB'08 "Jasper", 1.0.0. Opal Stripe het Anery CB'09 "Topaz"
0.1.0. Amel Stripe het Caramel CB'09 "Poppy", 0.1.0. Tessera het Amel Lavender Stripe ph Diffused Hypo Anery CB'12 "Amethyst" |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2013 : 18:35:48
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Originally posted by oakleyman18
I agree with Angel on this- there is still quite a lot of pattern on the sides, with very little Diffusion. I've had at least 3 Masque babies hatch this year with little/no patterning, and I "suspect" this may be happening here too. The baby is definitely Masque, so we just need to try and ascertain whether it's a very low expression diffused, or a Masqued normal.
This is why I did the post on Masque in the morph section, because sometimes it can be confused with diffused- and ends in sadness a lot of the time!
I'd never heard of Masque before you did that post XD Not properly anyway lol. Thanks for doing that post, will save me future tears I hope and stop me if I plan to buy a "diffused" and it turns out to be a masque... |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
Edited by - AcidicAngel on 26/08/2013 18:36:32 |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2013 : 18:42:54
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diffused doesnt = perfect diffusion all the time there are variations from very very little (like this) to perfect diffused specimens.
also there can be black specks on the belly, but there are no checkers visable, diffused all the way. |
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Sara3502
Hatchling
111 Posts |
Posted - 26/08/2013 : 23:24:23
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| I think I'm gonna go with masque diffused- maybe even call it normal based on the level of diffusion as an adult :) thanks!!!! |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 27/08/2013 : 12:22:32
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| If you could try to find out something about her parents it would be a lot more helpful... |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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oakleyman18
Yearling
828 Posts |
Posted - 27/08/2013 : 13:45:30
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| G's totally right there- not all Diffused lines have really high levels of diffusion. I also think it's probably a Diffused as well, because there are some flecks of colour ont he sides, but they are flecks, and not really the "mini-checkers" I would associate with Masque, as there is no symmetry.. A nice clear belly picture would be useful though :) |
Oscar Morrell
0.1.0. Tessera het Caramel Diffused Hypo ph Amel Anery CB'12 "Cassi", 0.1.0. Diffused Powder CB'12 "Ruby"
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender CB'11 "Amber", 1.0.0. Lavender Stripe het Diffused Anery Amel Hypo CB'11 "Pluto"
1.0.0. Hypo Opal Ph Stripe CB'12 "Hops", 1.0.0. Caramel Stripe het Amel CB'08 "Jasper", 1.0.0. Opal Stripe het Anery CB'09 "Topaz"
0.1.0. Amel Stripe het Caramel CB'09 "Poppy", 0.1.0. Tessera het Amel Lavender Stripe ph Diffused Hypo Anery CB'12 "Amethyst" |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 27/08/2013 : 13:50:43
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Originally posted by oakleyman18
G's totally right there- not all Diffused lines have really high levels of diffusion. I also think it's probably a Diffused as well, because there are some flecks of colour ont he sides, but they are flecks, and not really the "mini-checkers" I would associate with Masque, as there is no symmetry.. A nice clear belly picture would be useful though :)
I know not all diffusion is perfect. I've just not seen one this low expression before. I guess the true test would be to breed in future to a known diffused but obviously only if you can re-home all the babies and are prepared to breed. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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oakleyman18
Yearling
828 Posts |
Posted - 27/08/2013 : 14:02:32
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| Yep, that's probably the only way to tell.. But it's a tough call deciding to do that :) I'd be very upset if it just gave me lots of normals with funky head patterns. |
Oscar Morrell
0.1.0. Tessera het Caramel Diffused Hypo ph Amel Anery CB'12 "Cassi", 0.1.0. Diffused Powder CB'12 "Ruby"
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender CB'11 "Amber", 1.0.0. Lavender Stripe het Diffused Anery Amel Hypo CB'11 "Pluto"
1.0.0. Hypo Opal Ph Stripe CB'12 "Hops", 1.0.0. Caramel Stripe het Amel CB'08 "Jasper", 1.0.0. Opal Stripe het Anery CB'09 "Topaz"
0.1.0. Amel Stripe het Caramel CB'09 "Poppy", 0.1.0. Tessera het Amel Lavender Stripe ph Diffused Hypo Anery CB'12 "Amethyst" |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 27/08/2013 : 14:05:36
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Originally posted by oakleyman18
Yep, that's probably the only way to tell.. But it's a tough call deciding to do that :) I'd be very upset if it just gave me lots of normals with funky head patterns.
Same here... But as you say, it may be the only way to tell. I suppose it's up to the OP on what they decide to do really. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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What morph is she?
