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mark143
Egg

United Kingdom
87 Posts

Posted - 25/08/2013 :  15:27:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Been reading the Munson Plan.
How many people stick to this?
My corn is on double pinks and I feed him
Every Sunday. (Seven days).
The Munson plan says 2 pinks every 4-5 days.
so am I not feeding him enough?


oakleyman18
Yearling

828 Posts

Posted - 25/08/2013 :  15:45:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It completely depends on the individual animal. It's all well and good having or following a "plan", but each animal will grow at its own rate, regardless of how much it is fed. You need to feed each animal individually, and feed it an approprtiate sized prey item based on its own size.

Feeding more than every 5 days isn't recommended. I feed every week, and my corns all grow at healthy rates with no issues. Some people feed pinks at every 5 days, fuzzies at every 6 days, smalls every week, and then mediums/larges every two weeks when the adults are appropriately sized. But then as I said, it's all down to the individual animal :) You're definitely not underfeeding if that's what you're worrying about!



Oscar Morrell
0.1.0. Tessera het Caramel Diffused Hypo ph Amel Anery CB'12 "Cassi", 0.1.0. Diffused Powder CB'12 "Ruby"
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender CB'11 "Amber", 1.0.0. Lavender Stripe het Diffused Anery Amel Hypo CB'11 "Pluto"
1.0.0. Hypo Opal Ph Stripe CB'12 "Hops", 1.0.0. Caramel Stripe het Amel CB'08 "Jasper", 1.0.0. Opal Stripe het Anery CB'09 "Topaz"
0.1.0. Amel Stripe het Caramel CB'09 "Poppy", 0.1.0. Tessera het Amel Lavender Stripe ph Diffused Hypo Anery CB'12 "Amethyst"
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yalovit
Hatchling

United Kingdom
199 Posts

Posted - 25/08/2013 :  16:20:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I use the munson plan and my corn is doing fine but like oak says it depends on the snake

female corn mist.staffy cross English bull Kelsey
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Razee
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2525 Posts

Posted - 25/08/2013 :  16:25:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As above, though I generally feed pinkies at every 5 -6 days, fuzzies at every 6 -7 days, and then smalls or mediums every 7 days. Large every 7 -10 days, XL every 10 -14.

More importantly though, common sense is the best thing.
So, or example, if you have a skinny hatchie, that's been on maintenance diet, you'll gradually reduce the feeding gap, and as long as he digests the food fast, feed every 5 days. If one of my snakes, who normally feeds on XL mice, haven't fed for 3 -4 weeks ( for example, first in shed, then we're away on holiday ) - I'll give him a large mouse to start with ( size smaller than normal ), but then it'll get an XL mouse maybe just a week after, to make up for the lost feed.

I wouldn't feed any shorter, than every 5 days, even hatchies, otherwise you could overload their digestive systems.

0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
0.1.0 house cat
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LukeW
Hatchling

United Kingdom
276 Posts

Posted - 25/08/2013 :  17:22:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I do single and double pinks at 5 days and single/doubble fuzzies at 5-6 days depending on size of the food and so on :)

Female normal - Cyrus (can't think of a girl name :p)

Male charcoal - Midnight

Female amel - Lilly

Female CB13 anery 100% het sunkissed - Ariel.

Male CB13 fire 100% het stripe, 50% het hypo, anery and lavender

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mark143
Egg

United Kingdom
87 Posts

Posted - 25/08/2013 :  18:49:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks everyone. Think I'll try him on 2 pinks every 5 days and see how he goes.
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 26/08/2013 :  08:44:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I did use the Munson plan with my first corn - but only as a guide not as a 'you must do this' and I didn't go up to the meal sizes at the suggested weights (especially with my second corn as she was long but slender, so going up a feed size at the weights suggested would have been too large a meal for her). Personally I feed single pinks every 5 days, doubles and fuzzies every 6, then smalls every 7.

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Coal
Hatchling

449 Posts

Posted - 26/08/2013 :  08:57:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As everyone else has said, it's all very well having a plan but you must be flexible and adapt as your snake grows. I personally feel that the Munson plan feeds too much for pet snakes as it's intended for breeders trying to raise snakes to breeding size quickly, and following the same plan with a pet that's not intended for breeding can lead to obesity (breeding takes a lot out of a snake, especially a female, and the brumation period before the breeding season also helps to control their weight, though many pet-keepers, myself included, don't bother with brumation), but that's just my opinion. I do have a plan for my snake, but it's one of my own invention that I will be happy to change if need be. One thing I do that might be quite unusual is feed an alternating diet while moving up sizes, for example for a while he was one fuzzie, small, fuzzie, small, etc. and now he's on small, small, fuzzie. I personally think this helps keep his growth in-check so it doesn't go wild, but it's all up to the individual really :)

'Lovecraft' - CB12 male amel

'Sarnath' - CB13 male KSB (anery, het. albino)
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
6129 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2013 :  10:09:04  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
No. If it's the unedited one I think its too much food. I just use the 1.5x width for smaller snakes and weather I think they can handle it.



A very special super, duper thanks for K :3
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mark143
Egg

United Kingdom
87 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2013 :  22:05:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So Sid was fed last Tuesday. 2x pink.
Decided to try uping his feed to every 5 days.
He refused both pinks this Sunday.
So will stay with the every seven days feeding.
Not sure exactly how old he is.
He is approx 18 inchs long. And weights 20g.
does this sound about right for his size.
Should I put any sort of supliment/vitamins in his water?
Thanks.
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Coal
Hatchling

449 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2013 :  10:56:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The majority of people don't bother giving any sort of vitamins or supplements, and their corns are perfectly fine, so it's really not necessary. As to the amount of food given, it really depends on his girth (width at his widest point), rather than any other measurements. A food item should never be more than 1.5 times the girth, and if you feed an item and note that it's not leaving much of a bump, then consider doubling up for a while or moving up to a larger food size :)

'Lovecraft' - CB12 male amel

'Sarnath' - CB13 male KSB (anery, het. albino)
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