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Midge
Hatchling

United Kingdom
203 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2013 :  00:04:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
My first clutch arrived about 9 and a bit weeks ago and i was so happy to see on of the eggs pipping yesterday.....but unfortunately the happiness was short lived. a gorgeouslittle butter appeared but he is severely deformed, 2 large kinks in his spine and a part of his tail is fused together before the vent. his quality of life will be poor but i only have one option. what is the most humane way of euthanising? I've heard good and bad things about freezing and on the other forum people were talking about beheading and bashing them with a hammer to the head as "humane" which just seems barbaric to me. i am absolutely gutted i have to do this but what do people suggest?



1.0 CB11 Carolina Corn Snake - Naboo
1.0 CB10 Butter Motley Corn Snake - Rudi
0.1 CB09 Amel het Caramel, Stripe - Zumba
1.0 CB12 Phantom - Bollo
0.1 CB12 Diffused Powder - Rosie
0.1 CB12 Hypo Lavender - Lily

steve76
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
43 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2013 :  01:55:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
phone a reptile vet, over the phone advice is usually free or contact a reptile rescue center if you can't bring you self to end the life.many rescues have deformed reptiles for rehoming, one by me has a deformed bearded dragon

1.0.0 red staffy(Marley)
empty fish tank
0.0.1 Amel Corn(Vasuki)
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Midge
Hatchling

United Kingdom
203 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2013 :  08:43:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks i managed to find a rspca reptile number. They said that one blow to the head is the best way for them to go. if it is going to be the quickest way then looks as though ill have to do it t



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1.0 CB10 Butter Motley Corn Snake - Rudi
0.1 CB09 Amel het Caramel, Stripe - Zumba
1.0 CB12 Phantom - Bollo
0.1 CB12 Diffused Powder - Rosie
0.1 CB12 Hypo Lavender - Lily
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Midge
Hatchling

United Kingdom
203 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2013 :  10:03:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
done :-( was the right thing to do, he would have suffered in the long run he wouldn't have been able to eat, poo or shed properly.

a reminder of the seriousness of breeding though



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1.0 CB10 Butter Motley Corn Snake - Rudi
0.1 CB09 Amel het Caramel, Stripe - Zumba
1.0 CB12 Phantom - Bollo
0.1 CB12 Diffused Powder - Rosie
0.1 CB12 Hypo Lavender - Lily
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2013 :  15:10:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Definitely the best way - freezing would take a while and be very painful fro the snake. Sorry you had to do this, but it was for the best :(

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Welshlamb
Yearling

United Kingdom
711 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2013 :  20:12:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi midge

Sorry to hear about this experience. You did the right thing and I've been in the same position but with a kitten (hit down by car, but in critical condition). It's devastating and the initial guilt is very hard to deal with. But in time you will realise you did the best you could at the time.

I'm sure the method selected was the quickest and most effective to prevent any more suffering.

Take care

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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1773 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2013 :  20:56:42  Show Profile  Visit ScaryVonHayleystine's Homepage  Click to see ScaryVonHayleystine's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
So sad i actually cried because of the story and the really sad music i had on in the background :/ Shows some unhappy truths to breeding that its not all smooth sailing. Sorry for the loss but he is in herp-heaven now.

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Lee
Yearling

United Kingdom
522 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2013 :  21:10:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
sorry to hear this but I agree with above comments, it was the best thing to do. It's always hard to do something like this but unfortunately it's often necessary, if born in the wild it would quickly die.

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mjpeters
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1539 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2013 :  21:37:21  Show Profile  Click to see mjpeters's MSN Messenger address  Send mjpeters a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
So sad but well done you.Never easy to euthanize,personally find it so very difficult with a young animal(had to have a puppy put down once in my time breeding mastiffs)and it does tear your heart right out.
I like to think that maybe that Lumpy 1,000,000yr old Anery of mine is Looking out for your young'un up there
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Midge
Hatchling

United Kingdom
203 Posts

Posted - 18/08/2013 :  09:57:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for the comments, i know it was the right thing to do but. but like you said the guilt is bad. being that it was my first ever hatchie and i had to take its life :-( waiting for the other eggs to pip now hopefully all are ok



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1.0 CB10 Butter Motley Corn Snake - Rudi
0.1 CB09 Amel het Caramel, Stripe - Zumba
1.0 CB12 Phantom - Bollo
0.1 CB12 Diffused Powder - Rosie
0.1 CB12 Hypo Lavender - Lily
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 19/08/2013 :  18:49:34  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This is one of the hardest things any breeder will have to do and it is utterly heart breaking. But please don't feel guilty, you absolutely did the right thing. The hatchie probably wouldn't have been able to poo properly so wouldn't have made it anyway. Your method although it seems barbaric is the quickest way, its instant as opposed to beheading or freezing (those ARE barbaric).


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Midge
Hatchling

United Kingdom
203 Posts

Posted - 19/08/2013 :  20:11:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheers Eeji, the mum is the amel i bought from you. I've had 2 healthy babies hatch a gorgeous butter and an amel that is absolutely huge bout 8 inches!!!

But I've got another problem, an absolutely gorgeous butter motley stripe but it has a prolapse....im not finding much info about it especially in hatchies. Going to get a pic and put it in the health section. Hopefully he/she can be saved



1.0 CB11 Carolina Corn Snake - Naboo
1.0 CB10 Butter Motley Corn Snake - Rudi
0.1 CB09 Amel het Caramel, Stripe - Zumba
1.0 CB12 Phantom - Bollo
0.1 CB12 Diffused Powder - Rosie
0.1 CB12 Hypo Lavender - Lily
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Midge
Hatchling

United Kingdom
203 Posts

Posted - 19/08/2013 :  20:41:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just realised that it wasn't a prolapse his intestines were bursting out of his body well before the vent. Poor thing was so distressed snapping at everything another one i had to put out of its misery. God breeding is rough



1.0 CB11 Carolina Corn Snake - Naboo
1.0 CB10 Butter Motley Corn Snake - Rudi
0.1 CB09 Amel het Caramel, Stripe - Zumba
1.0 CB12 Phantom - Bollo
0.1 CB12 Diffused Powder - Rosie
0.1 CB12 Hypo Lavender - Lily
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 19/08/2013 :  20:48:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh no I'm so sorry Midge :(

Really glad you have had a couple of healthy hatchies, all the best with the rest xx

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hayleylsl
Egg

United Kingdom
98 Posts

Posted - 19/08/2013 :  22:35:01  Show Profile  Click to see hayleylsl's MSN Messenger address  Send hayleylsl a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I'm sorry for your losses :-( You did completely the right thing though, through my job I've seen so many animals pts but it never gets easier, though seeing them suffering for a long time is a lot worse. I've never had to do it literally by myself and can imagine it is really, really difficult, but the right thing to do nevertheless.

1.0.0 CB 12 Amel Motley- Boris

0.2.0 cats Grizabella and Jennyanydots

Foster cat: Jasper who has a healing broken pelvis
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Midge
Hatchling

United Kingdom
203 Posts

Posted - 19/08/2013 :  23:04:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks guys. 4 healthy hatchies now. 2 x Butters, 1 x Amel and an Amel Motley that the misses has named Flash (think that's a keeper!) another 7 to go all eggs bar one look great still very white and plump. One has just started to pip so fingers crossed that the rest are ok



1.0 CB11 Carolina Corn Snake - Naboo
1.0 CB10 Butter Motley Corn Snake - Rudi
0.1 CB09 Amel het Caramel, Stripe - Zumba
1.0 CB12 Phantom - Bollo
0.1 CB12 Diffused Powder - Rosie
0.1 CB12 Hypo Lavender - Lily
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