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divadexie
Snake Mite
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 Posted - 10/08/2013 : 18:45:27
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I keep reading and been told different things so thought this the best place to clear things up!
I am nearing the end of my ''getting my first corn snake'' process and quite a few times when I have mentioned buying a rub I have been told not to bother and that the hatchling will be fine in my 2ft viv as long as I provide adequate hiding places, especially as I intend to feed my snake in a plastic tank.
I had always read keeping them in smaller housing at first so wanted to know whether it is going to be fine to put straight into the viv or if I should just get a rub. I have most other stuff ready just waiting on mat stat and viv lock to arrive (if I go with rub it will go in the viv to make sure kiddies don't get into it). |
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coxymk2
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1245 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2013 : 18:50:44
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| If you are getting a hatchling it would be better in a rub as even a two foot viv is enormous for a little hatchie and it could cause problems |
0.0.1 ANERY (Liquorice)
0.0.1 CAROLINA (Bangle)
0.0.1 AMEL (Boozer)
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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1773 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2013 : 19:04:18
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| Personally i think it depends on the keeper, i myself have been told multiple different things. However i have never kept any of mine in a rub. Their first tanks were the 18" monkfield terrainium. Having a hide at both sides so they felt comfortable as well as other decor. |
Albino Addiction ... <3
0.1.0 - Creamsicle Cornsnake (Mo)
1.0.0 - Bubblegum Snow Corn (Gabriel)
1.0.0 - Lavendar 100% Het Hypo Corn (Ezra)
1.0.0 - Bairds Rat Snake (Lazarus)
0.0.1 - Crested Gecko (Pan) |
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yalovit
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3315 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2013 : 19:33:34
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I kept all of mine in RUBs first, then went to fauns, then straight to 3 ft vivs. They've been okay so far  |
2.4.0 Corn snakes
1.0.0 horse
0.1.0 Golden retriever
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divadexie
Snake Mite
12 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2013 : 19:54:40
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| If I was to go straight to viv, what signs should I look out for that snakey wasn't happy? |
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mark143
Egg
United Kingdom
87 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2013 : 21:54:42
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I wondered the same when I got my first baby corn a few weeks ago.
I had him in a 18" plastic container for the first 3 weeks.
just over a week ago I transfered him into his 3 foot
wooden vivarium.
I have the two hides and plants and other places for him to hide but was still slightly nervous weather he would feed the first time after being put into the vivarium.
he fed no problem at all and has seemed very at home in his new bigger home.
im still very new to all this and others will probably say ive done it the wrong way but it seems to have worked out ok for my corn, Sid.
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yalovit
Hatchling
United Kingdom
199 Posts |
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3315 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2013 : 22:22:07
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| Signs that a snake is stressed include refusing food and behaving defensively/aggressively (a big sign especially if they were previously placcid). |
2.4.0 Corn snakes
1.0.0 horse
0.1.0 Golden retriever
1.4.0 Guinea pigs |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2013 : 13:08:40
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I have to ask, why would you waste so much money on a 2ft viv? You'll probs want a 3ft/4ft one in the end so 2ft is kinda pointless. To be honest, I think all wooden vivs under 3ft for a corn are a waste of money though. With the amount of escapes that happen with small snakes in vivs I don't think its worth the risk. time and time again, you get owners who think they have cover all the escape routes, put down enough hides for their tiny snake in such a huge space only for the snake to escape. I'd get something small first as I would really have to ask, why would you knowing the risks of stress and escape house in a viv? coll it might work out for some people, I just really hope they have plugged every escape hole. the signs of stress are so subtle, you snake can eat and still be stressed.
Yalovit, big open spaces in the wild is very different to big open spaces in captivity. In the wild, the shear amount of hiding spaces they have to hide away from predators is different from 3 hides and maybe a plant with several predators over 5ft height stomping about quite close by most of the time. |
   
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Razee
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2525 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2013 : 13:39:54
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As above.
You'll find vivariums have a gap between the two panels of glass ( unless you have one of the top opening Monkfield vivs, they're brilliant ). Hatchlings can escape out of that gap really easily, you'd be surprised how much they can flatten themselves.
I kept mine in plastic faunarium, or a sandwich tub with a lockable lid ( when tiny ), or an RUB whilst they were little, then Bazil's moved straight into 4 ft viv, Little T went in 2 foot Monkfield viv first, then 4 foot adult viv. Seb went from faun straight into 3 foot viv.
Keeping them in a smallish tub when little has got many advantages. They feel safer, you can find your hatchling much easier, little tubs are easy to clean or move, and easy to heat. They are also fairly cheap, so you'll only end up paying for an adult vivarium. :-) |
0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
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