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yalovit
Hatchling

United Kingdom
199 Posts
Posted - 31/07/2013 :  00:12:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wondering if anyone can help.every time now my snake is acting like she hates being handled and fights with me after a couple of minutes.she used to be so laid back that she hardly moved ive had her for four months with no problems so I just don't understand.mabe you had the same problem and how did you solve it.hope somebody can help.
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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult

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Posted - 31/07/2013 :  00:57:38  Show Profile  Visit ScaryVonHayleystine's Homepage  Click to see ScaryVonHayleystine's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Maybe due to shed, feels uncomfortable due to constipation or just simply isn't in the mood to be held at the times that you do :)
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yalovit
Hatchling

United Kingdom
199 Posts
Posted - 31/07/2013 :  01:00:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
no she shed last week but never thought about constipation
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mjpeters
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Posted - 31/07/2013 :  01:22:29  Show Profile  Click to see mjpeters's MSN Messenger address  Send mjpeters a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Perhaps your hands smell a bit different?I always wash with the same soap before,then have a bit of a rummage about in the substrate first-you know spot cleaning-so I smell familiar
But could be poop
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ScaryVonHayleystine
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Posted - 31/07/2013 :  09:52:09  Show Profile  Visit ScaryVonHayleystine's Homepage  Click to see ScaryVonHayleystine's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
when did she last go?
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yalovit
Hatchling

United Kingdom
199 Posts
Posted - 31/07/2013 :  15:12:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
its hard to say cuz she does it under the substrate so don't always see it
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ScaryVonHayleystine
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Posted - 31/07/2013 :  20:00:37  Show Profile  Visit ScaryVonHayleystine's Homepage  Click to see ScaryVonHayleystine's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Aw well, best i could say then is keep an eye, if the snake looks quite swollen around the rear end you could maybe try a warm bath to ease and allow release of the bowels aha.
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gaz1974
Hatchling

United Kingdom
146 Posts
Posted - 31/07/2013 :  22:30:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As I am a newbie not sure whether I am barking up the right tree but thought I might throw a few questions into the pot:

Does she rattle her tail at you when you go to get her out?
Does she try to get away when you go to get her out or does she let you pick her up initially with no struggle?
Has the night time viv temp been considerably hotter than usual in this warm weather.
Have you been exposed to any strong odours that you wouldn't have been previously?..for instance mine hates the smell of cigarette smoke and goes mental if I have it on me.

You could try putting a towel on your arm and letting her crawl under it.. that might make her feel more comfortable.

Or like Scary says... could be she needs a poop!
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yalovit
Hatchling

United Kingdom
199 Posts
Posted - 31/07/2013 :  22:43:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
no gaz no tail rattle,she never has.shes always been calm until the last week.found poop so don't think shes constipated either.im now wondering if its the smell of my dog even though I wash my hands before and after handeling.
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gaz1974
Hatchling

United Kingdom
146 Posts
Posted - 31/07/2013 :  23:17:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Would be an interesting experiment to see if she is ok if you handle her having not been near the dog and with fresh clothes on.

Hope all goes well.
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yalovit
Hatchling

United Kingdom
199 Posts
Posted - 31/07/2013 :  23:54:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
took the words right out of my mouth gaz,thats what im going to do.
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gaz1974
Hatchling

United Kingdom
146 Posts
Posted - 07/08/2013 :  22:57:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Yalovit.

Was just wondering how things are going now with your littleun?
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yalovit
Hatchling

United Kingdom
199 Posts
Posted - 09/08/2013 :  23:14:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
shes fine but still resisting after about five minutes she gets very flighty.i think its just the way she is going to be as she grows up.
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Welshlamb
Yearling

United Kingdom
711 Posts
Posted - 09/08/2013 :  23:23:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by yalovit

shes fine but still resisting after about five minutes she gets very flighty.i think its just the way she is going to be as she grows up.


Hi Yalovit,

I've had this with my Cali King. From day one she has been a tricky snake. First with the tail rattling then with the spraying fluids. We still now have ups and downs. But much more mellower.

I think its down to getting used to you. Have you changed your soap lately or detergent?

My Cali King has calmed down. I left a pair of my socks in her vivarium that had been worn for around a week. I also now always use anti-bacterial hand wash before and after handling and always stick to the same brand. It has a very strong scent.

With everything its perseverance. She was always getting stressed out, but now she comes to me when I open her vivarium (well not always but in most cases she gets nosey). Take things a step at a time. Leave the vivarium door open and wait until she comes to you. Small, but often handling worked for me. Also be wary about picking her up, as she may be sleeping. They have no eye lids.

I also found that coming up to shedding she was particular unhappy with handling sessions.

Like everyone else has pointed out, could be she needs a clear-out. But you can usually spot this as there will be noticeable lump near her anal vent area. I've also observed that both my snakes will lift their tails horizontally just before they go and when they have finished.

I suppose your dog, could also be a problem. As it may be aware of its presence and see it as a predator. (but I cant comment on this as I have no other pets)
Edited by - Welshlamb on 09/08/2013 23:31:12
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yalovit
Hatchling

United Kingdom
199 Posts
Posted - 10/08/2013 :  20:13:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
shes definitely pooing im starting to think its when I lift her back to my hand after she has started to wander she doesn't like being pulled back.i think shes thinking I want to explore and don't want to stay in your hands.shes growing up now mabee I should give her more freedom lol
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gaz1974
Hatchling

United Kingdom
146 Posts
Posted - 10/08/2013 :  22:28:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mine can get a bit hysterical when being handled but what I have found is that if I put a towel or something over my arm she will just hide underneath it. Similarly she will quite often make a bid for the inside of my shirt, somewhere I believe she feels safe as it's warm and dark (and plenty of padding underneath lol).
I've found that if I just let her do her thing she gets calmer but you can tell after @ 20 minutes she's had enough.

You could try the towel thing or indeed let her explore inside your shirt.

I she a "hidey" snake in general... spending more time out of site than cruising the viv?
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yalovit
Hatchling

United Kingdom
199 Posts
Posted - 11/08/2013 :  14:36:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes shes a hide away snake only coming out at night when lights are off.i may try it with a towel and see how that goes.
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Welshlamb
Yearling

United Kingdom
711 Posts
Posted - 11/08/2013 :  17:43:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by yalovit

yes shes a hide away snake only coming out at night when lights are off.i may try it with a towel and see how that goes.


This is typical behaviour in all new snakes. Just give it time and keep handling sessions often but in small duration and you'll get there.

George was flighty but after regular handling is fun to spend time with.

Snake's don't generally enjoy being handled, it's more that they tolerate it. She will get more tolerant the more used to you she becomes. 4 months is still early days
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yalovit
Hatchling

United Kingdom
199 Posts
Posted - 11/08/2013 :  20:25:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
but the thing is she used to be fine.this is a new thing
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yalovit
Hatchling

United Kingdom
199 Posts
Posted - 11/08/2013 :  20:28:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ps.shes getting a bit better now
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gaz1974
Hatchling

United Kingdom
146 Posts
Posted - 11/08/2013 :  22:39:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rooting for you and your wee snakey... I'm sure things will come good.
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