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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/06/2013 :  14:47:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
First a little background. We have had these leos for just over a year.

Two females living in separate cages. (lived together with previous owner but started fighting when we bought them)
Hot spot at 33c cool end at 24c. (heated by mat on a stat, digital thermometers to monitor temps)
Calcium bowl, hide in each end, plants for cover, water bowl. Moss hide.

Quite simply they have not eaten for months. They use to eat morio worms the occasional locust or wax worm and some times meal worms. They last ate around last september/october time, one ate 3 meal worms about 12 weeks ago. They still shed ok though not very often and neither have lost hardly any amount of weight. One weighs 67g and the other 73g. Now I know their weights are ok but not eating is going to cause problems sooner or later obviously they are not getting any vitamins. They also feel rubbery if you know what I mean, can't think of another way to describe how they feel when we pick them up. Both of them laid infertile eggs last year and have not really shown any interest in food since. Both have undergone a worming course and avipro over the last few weeks. Now I am really clutching at straws here but is it possible that they don't like being in a different room and viv (vivs were new) and this is causing the fasting. We moved them upstairs last september into slightly smaller vivs, they were in 3fts now in 2fts. Anyone got any other suggestions/ideas as to what is causing or has caused this behavior and more to the point how to help them.

Thanks.

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, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family

Mamma
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4494 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2013 :  16:05:51  Show Profile  Visit Mamma's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My girl is the same same set up as you. She refuses live food unless shes absolutely starving and her weight yo-yos. Just now shes dropped 6g in the last month I have had her in diff set ups over the year to see if that helps and so far the rub one is the only one that she will even contemplate occasionally eating any live foods.

I have been bathing her in reptiboost though to at least keep her hydrated etc.

Hopefully someone else with more experience can offer us some advice



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lupi lou
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3670 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2013 :  18:55:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jeff's dad is off his food at the moment too. I know they haven't been with the male but they aren't gravid again are they? Might be worth posting on the 'darkside' if you haven't already there's quite a few leo keepers on there. sorry I couldn't be more help


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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2013 :  19:18:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have asked the same on the 'darkside' as yet had no replies. I have been told that as they have laid eggs in the past they may well lay every year but there is no obvious signs. Last year when they laid they ate loads and were continuously digging at the glass and in corners. At the moment all they do is sit the hides. One simply refuses to sit anywhere else than in her cold hide. Both hides are the same and I have fiddled with temps but she still sits in it. If I put her in one of the other hides she simply goes back to the cold one. The other one does move around more but thats about it. I know leos go off their food but this long length of fasting is very strange.

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family
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lupi lou
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3670 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2013 :  21:05:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
found a few things from searching, one was to handle and get them moving about more which should stimulate appetite. Another was to mash up some bugs and offer on a syringe by dripping it on their nose. You could always try feeder such as silk worms, roaches see if that helps. Hope thats of some use to you and you get them eating.

* edited to ask how often do you offer food?


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Edited by - lupi lou on 04/06/2013 21:06:17
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2013 :  21:32:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We've tried offering food every 3-4 days, tried every 10-14 days and have tried leaving them 3 weeks between offering. I did wonder whether to pop one back in to a 3ft viv and see if this helps though I know they can get really stressed by moving them about. I have a roach colony so have tried roach previously. They just do what they do with all food at the moment, sniff it even lick it sometimes then turn their head away and walk away. I tell you royals pythons are eating machines compared to these two leos :(

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family
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