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Nickyac
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/04/2013 : 22:44:18
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I have just rehoused my corn into a new vivarium, trying to keep at as least stressful as I could by keeping the same layout and heat mat as before. 2 days on he seems very stressed. Since the move he has been very restless constantly nose rubbing at the edge of the glass to the point where his nose looks very sore now. I have not handled or fed him since the move having been advised to leave him for about 7 days to settle first. I am a bit worried as I've had him years, he is fully grown and I have never seen him like this before. Any advise would be welcome especially about if it is a good idea to handle him or even feed him |
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Razee
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2525 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2013 : 00:01:46
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You can check several things: are his viv's temperatures ok, could there be any new, strong smell ( I presume the viv is new - so silicon sealant, etc., their sense of smell is so much better than ours, so if you can smell something in there, it'd be much worse for him), is there anything else, that has changed ( has he been in a viv before, or did he have an RUB) ? If the viv was near a window, and the sun shines on it, the temperature could get suddenly very high...
I know some people on here use a plastic paper binder, slipped on the edge of the inner glass door, to stop their snake trying to get out through the gap between the doors. This could help with the nose rubbing - though it's possible he might just rub on something else. I'd be tempted to not feed him just yet, and to leave it the whole 7 days, as he's obviously upset - and see if you can find out, what causes it.
Can't think of anything else, but someone else might come up with more ideas. Hope this helps. |
0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka 1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler 1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek 1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood 0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka 0.0.1 hognose 0.1.0 stable cat 0.1.0 house cat |
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
7308 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2013 : 08:36:06
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Razee is right about the need to double check everything Nicky, especially the temps. Is the heatmat controlled by a stat and monitored by a digital thermometer?
It may be that he's still adjusting but his behaviour actually sounds like that of a male in search of a female, and it is breeding season. He's doing exactly what my Kellog is doing as I type this ! It could be that the move to a new viv pushed him into that mode. It's exactly what happened when I first got Kellog. I'd been assured that he was a good feeder, but he refused every feed I offered him and he was out and about, roaming around his viv, rubbing his nose up and down the glass. That's when I found this forum and they explained what was going on. He'd never done it with his previous owner, I checked, so it seems that the move caused him to act like that....and he's done it every year since. It is a lovely time of year, because you get to see so much more of them....but I just wish he'd eat !
I don't think it's necessary to wait the full week before you try to feed him. It's not as though he's travelled anywhere and the smells are all pretty much the same. I've usually left mine for about 5 days. Feed him when he's next due, or at the end of the period you decide to wait....but don't be too surprised if he refuses.
As for the plastic binders, I've got them on all my vivs. They aren't there to stop the snakes escaping but more the soften what they are rubbing their noses against....so it's plastic and not glass. Part way down this page is a pic of my vivs with the red plastic binders in http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6324&whichpage=3 Not exactly pretty but they do the job and I'm more worried about my snakes getting sore noses than the look of their vivs!
This is just my personal theory though Nicky....and it's important that you rule out everything else, like some of the suggestions Razee has made.
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SilverWings
Yearling
United Kingdom
740 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2013 : 09:18:11
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I just moved Diego into a new viv (actually, an HUGE rub), he too was totally stressed out at first. He wouldn't settle, and when he finally did stop moving it was just where he was-he wouldnt curl up in the hides or anything. He looked so miserable :( But a week on, he's finally settled down, and seems okay with his new home (apart from occasionally throwing his water around, just to annoy me I think XD). Stick at it, he should be okay after a few days. |
2.2.3 Corn snakes; Red, Rosie, Liana, Checkers, Luna, Diego, Snowman 1.0 Taiwanese Beauty Snake; Aleron 1.0 Green Anoles; Doug 1.0 Greyhound; Lee |
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2013 : 15:57:05
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If you have checked the temperatures and they are all fine then I would say that the moving in to the viv has just happened at the same time of year when corns will be out looking for a mate. Just about all of mine are rubbing there noses and are very active, some will occasionally eat some will not, one has not eaten since beginning of February as he has other things on his mind. I would just offer food as you would normally. Don't worry if he refuses either. I would also handle him as normal. As long as he seems fine in all other ways and does not start to loose a lot of weight then I wouldn't worry. His behavior you describe is quite normal for this time of year :) He will eat when he is ready. |
Corn Snake , 1.0.0 Amel (Stan), Royal Pythons 1.0.0 Normal (Nigel) 1.0.0 Albino (Tony) Boa Constrictor Imperator 0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose 0.1.0 Normal (Stevie) 0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George) 1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert) 4 GALS.
Tarantulas Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo. Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5853 Posts |
Posted - 09/04/2013 : 16:02:37
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I agree with Red123. I've just moved a couple of mine. After settling in the adult male is doing his full on "let me get the girls" routine! |
Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil) Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol) Granddaughter (Eva) 3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes) 1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi) 1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson) 2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie) 0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut) 1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde) 1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo) 0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet) 0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak) 0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox) ??? Foster animals Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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