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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/04/2013 :  17:05:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lol, great news Razee!

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Kellog
the nice one

United Kingdom
7308 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2013 :  04:30:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's fantastic news Razee !! I'm so pleased to hear she's eaten....and how ! Her reaction to the small mouse must have really shocked you, although your description of her hide jumping up and down did make me smile .

1 comment about that....you mention about having to fix the probes back under the lip of the hide. Does that mean that they are actually reading the temp inside the hide? The only reason I ask is that if they are then the temp will change whenever she is in it, so it's not a true reading for the stat or thermometer. Just thought it worth mentioning .

Xxx


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Razee
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2525 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2013 :  08:38:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not inside, the are just held by the edge of the hide, and the actual probes are just outside, otherwise she'd lie on them, or possibly lift them off.

I must say though, I like the arrangement less and less. She used to have a brilliant cave hide, it had a wavy edge, so it held the probes in place really well, without pressing down on them too much - but was heavy enough for her not to shift around. She's now outgrown the biggest one, and other types are quite heavy to put on a heatmat - I'm starting to worry about thermal blocking. I got her one of those black plastic new hides, that look like upside down seedling pots. It's nice, low, and dark - but too light, so she can easily shift it about ( hence her performance yesterday ).

I'm thinking about replicating the idea of Monkfield vivs - putting a sheet of glass, very slightly lifted - over the heatmat. That way there'd be a tiny air gap, I could fix the probes to the glass, and there would never be any thermal blocking from snake, or heavy hides. The glass wouldn't be fixed to the floor permanently, but would be heavy enough for her not to burrow under. I have got a sheet of paper over the mat at the moment ( mainly to absorb any poop - Little T especially has taken to pooping or weeing over the mat ), but it's not ideal.

0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
0.1.0 house cat
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Kellog
the nice one

United Kingdom
7308 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2013 :  12:34:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glad to hear the probes aren't in the hide. Sorry for mentioning it, you obviously knew better .

I agree about it not being ideal....it is hard to get it right, especially if you don't want to stick them down permanently. Doing it how a Monkfield viv has it is a good idea. My heatmat has got vinyl slate over it, not stuck down and the snakes don't try to go under it.

I've got great pottery flower pots that I use as hides, cut so they lie on their sides which means the snakes are lying on the substrate/heatmat. The other hides I use are the exo-terra snake caves that don't have a base. The probes are kept down by large rocks, which do occasionally get moved but I keep a close eye on them.

Xxx




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Razee
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2525 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2013 :  12:47:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No, please, don't apologize for mentioning the probes, it was good of you to say that - because if I hadn't known, it would have saved lots of potential problems. I sounded a bit harsh in my reply - now I'm reading it back - and didn't mean to, so I should be apologizing.

The vinyl slate idea is very interesting - I'm considering anything. The most ideal thing would be some sort of false bottom for the viv, but that would mean sealing it all, and would make everything too complicated. I need something I can clean easily, something I can take to bits, if I need to, and mainly - something that would be safe for the snakes.

0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
0.1.0 house cat
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Kellog
the nice one

United Kingdom
7308 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2013 :  22:07:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Razee



........I sounded a bit harsh in my reply - now I'm reading it back - and didn't mean to, so I should be apologizing.........




You didn't sound harsh at all Razee!! It doesn't read that way, so no apologies!! Lets make a deal....we'll both stop apologising to each other !

Xxx


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Razee
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2525 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2013 :  07:53:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Deal

0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
0.1.0 house cat
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