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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 13/05/2013 : 16:30:03
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| Yay, glad she ate both pinkies :D |
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Foxtrotsierra
Hatchling
United Kingdom
485 Posts |
Posted - 15/05/2013 : 09:30:30
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Thank you Kellog and smart bunny 
My delightfully see through girl is now well and truly see through again so 7 nights later we are going for the self double pinkie feed to see how she goes. Fortunately I have a great relationship with her vet with respect to tips and hints for her. I can see (  ) she has had her bowels emptied so food time it is again! Fingers crossed please!
Going to get a sneaky weigh in in a bit as she looks like a sausage compared to previous looks! Will edit this post rather than double post if anyone is interested. |
0.1.0 Snow - Cathy (digesting, waiting for her photo op)
0.1.0 Carolina - Delilah
0.1.0 King Charles Cavalier - Emily
0.1.0 St Bernard - Pooch
0.1.0 Manx Cat - Maggie
0.0.1 HUGE tropical fish tank + residents
1.0.0 Husband (thinks I am insane)
3.2.0 Children (think I am cool!)
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
7308 Posts |
Posted - 15/05/2013 : 09:38:30
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She's doing so well Fi  . I'm sure she'll devour those 2 pinkies. I'm interested to know whether you hear her do it this time or whether she does it 'ninja style' again  .
Don't edit to add the weight, it's easily missed then for people reading through and her weight is important enough to deserve a post of its own . I look forward to seeing what it is.
Xxx
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5091 Posts |
Posted - 15/05/2013 : 09:38:59
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| A sausage lol! Look forward to fresh pics of Cathy the sausage snake :P |
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Foxtrotsierra
Hatchling
United Kingdom
485 Posts |
Posted - 15/05/2013 : 11:03:19
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Well, one very sneaky weigh in done, and.... (drum roll please)
Cathy has doubled her weight in 9 weeks. She was 6 months (give or take a few weeks either way) when I got her and weighed 9g, she is now 18g 
As I now know, all snakes grow at different rates, and some pop right out of the egg weighing that but I am absolutely bursting with pride at her. Definitely sausage looking (to me!).
As my better half is currently faffing around with his fish I am going to have to wait for a photo op as I am awful at the single handed version and she is getting a little fast for that too.
I think another feed and the difference will be a lot more evident visually for sure. I can feel it in her muscle tone, but as Kellog said, it doesn't translate too well to rubbish pics, so will do some when she has had her next meal tonight and digested it
As per her feeding, who knows!!! She is always keeping me on my toes!! I shall report back with my findings tomorrow |
0.1.0 Snow - Cathy (digesting, waiting for her photo op)
0.1.0 Carolina - Delilah
0.1.0 King Charles Cavalier - Emily
0.1.0 St Bernard - Pooch
0.1.0 Manx Cat - Maggie
0.0.1 HUGE tropical fish tank + residents
1.0.0 Husband (thinks I am insane)
3.2.0 Children (think I am cool!)
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Blackcat
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1235 Posts |
Posted - 15/05/2013 : 12:31:50
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Way to go Cathy - wont be long before she will be on fuzzies :)
I look for new posts on this thread, so just keep posting Fi, even if they are 'double' posts |
0.0.2 Corn snakes - Morse & Zeus
1.1.0 Brazillian Rainbow Boa's - Indigo & Ruby
0.0.2 Columbian Rainbow Boa's - Orinoco & Tobago
1.0.0 House snake - Hoggle
0.1.0 Crested Gecko - Ludo
2.0.0 cats (RIP Zebee), 0.1.0 Dog, 2.0.0 Horses |
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
7308 Posts |
Posted - 15/05/2013 : 20:14:09
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That's brilliant Fi !! I totally understand why that weight deserved a drum roll . I can't quite imagine her 'sausage-like', but it's great that you can actually feel the difference with her.
Hope tonight's feed goes well.
Xxx
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Foxtrotsierra
Hatchling
United Kingdom
485 Posts |
Posted - 16/05/2013 : 05:56:21
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Ok, last night was 7 days post first double pinkie feed for Cathy. Dutifully did the whole thing again to find ......... one pinkie on the shell hide and one on the kitchen paper this morning. Honestly, it is like a version of Deal or No Deal but with Feed or No Feed!!
At least I know she went there as she knocked one off the hide. Exasperated? You betcha
I think I shall leave it a couple of days and go for it again. Meanwhile, I do believe that there will be clumps of hair metaphorically pulled out as to why!
So I don't over face her with food I think Friday sounds like a plan, unless anyone can give me some advice in that direction? Please? Begging for ideas now!! |
0.1.0 Snow - Cathy (digesting, waiting for her photo op)
0.1.0 Carolina - Delilah
0.1.0 King Charles Cavalier - Emily
0.1.0 St Bernard - Pooch
0.1.0 Manx Cat - Maggie
0.0.1 HUGE tropical fish tank + residents
1.0.0 Husband (thinks I am insane)
3.2.0 Children (think I am cool!)
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5091 Posts |
Posted - 16/05/2013 : 07:53:44
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| Aww Fi, don't panic - maybe she was still satisfied by her last double meal? It is usually advised to wait until their next feed day if they miss one, so Friday would be too soon, but I think 5 days in your case would be fine rather than waiting a whole 7. Try not to worry, you know she likes to keep you on your toes ;) |
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
7308 Posts |
Posted - 16/05/2013 : 08:00:01
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I'm sorry Fi, she has surprised me....which I guess isn't too surprising . I would be hesitant to feed her again tomorrow, you don't want to offer food too often as that will just stress her. PERSONALLY I'd give her 5 days, so feed her on Tuesday, and maybe only do the one pinkie, so you know she'll eat. Then wait a week and try the double pinkies again. If she takes them it might be worthwhile alternating feeds just for a few weeks, between 1 and 2 pinkies. BUT that's only my thoughts on the matter and you know I don't have any experience with this sort of thing.
At least you know her weight is good and she is a good feeder....when she isn't being stubborn  . No pulling out of hair allowed! It was probably because she wasn't used to being so full so maybe isn't hungry yet. You've got to look at her feeding history and give her time to adjust to changes in her feeding schedule. She must have felt stuffed last time and its taken longer for her to feel the need to eat again....but that will change, I promise.
Xxx
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Foxtrotsierra
Hatchling
United Kingdom
485 Posts |
Posted - 16/05/2013 : 14:05:03
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Well, here goes. My daughter came in the bedroom just after I had posted as she had an A Level exam this morning so I popped the towel over Cathy's viv as she doesn't like seeing her food and I was just waiting for my pain medication to kick in so I could get out of bed and remove the offending pinkies x 2. 5 minutes later I took it back off and ..............
Cathy had eaten one of the pinkies 
Boy, what I wouldn't give to get in that little ladies' head! I also have to apologise - for some reason I thought it was Tuesday today??? I wouldn't have offered her again so soon as Friday, I would have waited until Sunday/Monday - definitely not tomorrow!
Note to self - check days and not date before posting
She must just have fancied one instead of two and this is the first time she has eaten in the morning to my knowledge too. Just happy she has had a little something to eat. I can cope with her regime. Just want her a happy girl.
Thank you to both smart bunny and Kellog I have done a quick spreadsheet with all her feeding records from before she came to me on one, and the ones since she has had her forever home with me. It is much easier to see at a glance rather than trawl through my notes that I make in her book. I prefer the book overall, but the spreadsheet has made it much easier to see if I can spot any trends in her eating pattern and weight.
I think it must be a case of her still being satisfied from her previous meal and not hugely hungry, so fingers crossed that after just one this week, next week the hunger will kick in!
Wow, I think I need a lie down to "digest" her behaviour myself now! |
0.1.0 Snow - Cathy (digesting, waiting for her photo op)
0.1.0 Carolina - Delilah
0.1.0 King Charles Cavalier - Emily
0.1.0 St Bernard - Pooch
0.1.0 Manx Cat - Maggie
0.0.1 HUGE tropical fish tank + residents
1.0.0 Husband (thinks I am insane)
3.2.0 Children (think I am cool!)
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5091 Posts |
Posted - 16/05/2013 : 14:08:26
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| *snigger* See - she's just messin' with ya lol!!! The little minx... |
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
7308 Posts |
Posted - 16/05/2013 : 20:34:42
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Sorry Fi, I've just got to laugh....I'm imagining your face when you took off the towel and saw the pinkie gone !! I'm just glad your daughter doesn't like seeing her food, otherwise you wouldn't have covered her and she might not have eaten.
Don't worry about the date thing, I get TOTALLY confused as well  .
I know she'd have been fine had she not eaten....but I'm very glad, for her sake and yours, that she has .
Xxx
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Foxtrotsierra
Hatchling
United Kingdom
485 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2013 : 07:03:25
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Hi guys, sorry for being AWOL but the children have had exams (GCSE's and A Levels) for for the last couple of weeks I have felt like I have been at school doing revision with them.
This one, however, will all have you saying (or thinking) "Told you so!"
I shall explain. Cathy had another single pinkie feed since I last posted. She is still growing and more importantly, still gaining weight.
I cleaned her viv out yesterday, the full works with new sphagnum as it was so warm in our room and it is drying out quickly, even with spritzing it. She likes to sleep under it on the cool side when that end of the viv.
I have to admit, I cleaned it out later than I would have liked but had been out making the most of the sun and my better half had lovingly put the box with Cathy's things in it at the back of the walk in closet where I can't reach it. All in all, it would have been about 4pm when I was done. Dinner was defrosting on top of the wardrobe and all was set.
I kept noticing her dancing round in her cool hide, sticking her head out and generally tarting it up. I know the sphag wasn't too cold as I checked with a thermometer so thought she must be able to smell her food and went to pop it in.
Now, as I have said time and time before, I go in the viv, head pops out if awake. I go in the viv with food and if she is awake, she will literally jump into the nearest hide. Not this time....
I went in with pinkie #1. Head pops out of cold hide. I am a bit confused by this point (I do need to point out it doesn't take much). I thought I would just show her what I was putting in her viv as it was broad daylight (about 5pm). Anyway, contrary as you like it, she sat there sniffing and tasting the air around her dinner. Cool and as gracefully as you can imagine, she took it off the tongs. Yes, that is not a misprint, Cathy ate her first pinkie off the tongs .
I was beyond delighted to see her eat a pinkie for the first time. I popped pinkie #2 on the coco shell and popped the lid down gently and buckled her in.
You think this is the end? Heck no! With pinkie #1 dispatched of and me still in a state of absolute disbelief, (better half was hissed at over my monitor to come and see and duly appeased me by sporting a smile ) Cathy pops her head out of the hide to see where the rest of her food is! I duly opened her viv and took the second pinkie off the coco hide and took it to her where she sniffed, tasted and made even quicker work of this one. Fortunately my husband got to see the whole thing too as he was in the room and we thought she was just juggling her food down (bearing in mind, we have never seen her eat). No - she was waiting for hide service!
I jokingly said to him "If that head pops up again she can take a running jump if she thinks she is getting 3!". First up, I would never give her 3 and secondly, well there is no secondly. What I did get rewarded with was the following...
So, in one feed I got her to feed off the tongs twice (she is very delicate with it all, graceful even - so definitely not a striker!) and an after dinner performance!
Just as I started typing this, I saw her moving round the viv out of the corner of my eye - I have now also seen her drink too. All in the space of 13 hours.
Think I need a lie down after all this |
0.1.0 Snow - Cathy (digesting, waiting for her photo op)
0.1.0 Carolina - Delilah
0.1.0 King Charles Cavalier - Emily
0.1.0 St Bernard - Pooch
0.1.0 Manx Cat - Maggie
0.0.1 HUGE tropical fish tank + residents
1.0.0 Husband (thinks I am insane)
3.2.0 Children (think I am cool!)
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Edited by - Foxtrotsierra on 27/05/2013 07:06:19 |
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5091 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2013 : 14:52:42
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Lol glad to hear things are going so well, thought it would only be a matter of time before you got to see her eating!
One thing though - is she in blue again? You mentioned moss in her hide - you should only put damp hides in if they are in blue, it shouldn't be there all the time as the increased humidity can cause respiratory infections. |
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Foxtrotsierra
Hatchling
United Kingdom
485 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2013 : 15:39:47
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I actually had a word with her vet about the moss hide smart bunny as she has got rather attached to it since her first shed. She adores burying herself underneath it when she thermoregulates.
He told me to squeeze it out completely, pop it on kitchen paper so it was just the texture of the wet moss (without the majority of the wet) and we have put another air vent just by the hide. She was very restless when I took it out and wouldn't settle at all without it in the viv. I tried lots of different things for her cool hide but it was stressing her, hence the call to her vet.
I check her every day I can get her out of the viv and so her breathing is as clear as a whistle.
She has been sent to mess with my head, that is for sure!
I really appreciate you mentioning it though, as after her shed I did have that bell ringing in my head that it needed removing but 3 days of her becoming stressed is when I called about it. I had always had aspen in there beforehand but no, she is definitely living up to her name.
Am still on cloud 9 after seeing her eat off the tongs! I had hoped to sneak a peek one day of her taking it off the hide but she totally bypassed it all for me |
0.1.0 Snow - Cathy (digesting, waiting for her photo op)
0.1.0 Carolina - Delilah
0.1.0 King Charles Cavalier - Emily
0.1.0 St Bernard - Pooch
0.1.0 Manx Cat - Maggie
0.0.1 HUGE tropical fish tank + residents
1.0.0 Husband (thinks I am insane)
3.2.0 Children (think I am cool!)
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Razee
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2525 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2013 : 17:24:02
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| Glad you finally get to see her eat, and drink as well, and that she's now bold enough, to take her food of the tongs :-) . She's a little monkey, that's for sure, and will keep you on your toes, but it's all worth it for moments like these :-) |
0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
0.1.0 house cat |
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Blackcat
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1235 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2013 : 21:24:29
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| Great news, Cathy certainly is a little character |
0.0.2 Corn snakes - Morse & Zeus
1.1.0 Brazillian Rainbow Boa's - Indigo & Ruby
0.0.2 Columbian Rainbow Boa's - Orinoco & Tobago
1.0.0 House snake - Hoggle
0.1.0 Crested Gecko - Ludo
2.0.0 cats (RIP Zebee), 0.1.0 Dog, 2.0.0 Horses |
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Foxtrotsierra
Hatchling
United Kingdom
485 Posts |
Posted - 28/05/2013 : 08:18:51
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Genuine question here (as opposed to my usual boasting )
As I have been feeding Cathy covered up until now and 2 weeks ago I got a "no feed" overnight and then a "feed" after she had seen her food in the morning, do you think that the towel might have been having a counter productive effect?
Yes, I know snakes hunt at dusk and dawn but she really did seem to enjoy giving her pinkies the once over when she fed off the tongs. I think I got a "no feed" as one of them had been either knocked off her coco hide (and I feel awful about this as if is has fallen on her head, I will not forgive myself) and I try to make each feed a positive experience for her. She did take one though just after she had seen what it was.
I feel really bad as she might have perceived that she was being attacked (by a F/T pinkie no less!) but still stressing her out.
She is being a proper little show off since I fed her. Drinking lots and generally being quite the little character poking her head out of the hides at quite unusual times of the day.
I did check for a regurge and no, not so far (as her behaviour seems to have switched completely). Given that she has been out so much, all I can see is a thickening round her from her food.
My instinct is telling me not to go back to using the towel again but knowing her - I will be eating my words next week! |
0.1.0 Snow - Cathy (digesting, waiting for her photo op)
0.1.0 Carolina - Delilah
0.1.0 King Charles Cavalier - Emily
0.1.0 St Bernard - Pooch
0.1.0 Manx Cat - Maggie
0.0.1 HUGE tropical fish tank + residents
1.0.0 Husband (thinks I am insane)
3.2.0 Children (think I am cool!)
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
7308 Posts |
Posted - 28/05/2013 : 09:07:01
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I'm afraid I've got to say it....I'm not surprised AT ALL that Miss Cathy has done this . She is such a character and just needed to find her confidence to become more pro-active with feeding and even drinking. Considering her history it's not surprising she has been slow to accept pinkies and you did exactly the right thing in introducing them to her slowly, so she could see that they weren't something to fear....never thought I'd know of a snake that was scared of its food  . It's taken time, but you've given her that, and now she has 'graduated' to being more 'normal' where feeding is concerned, if there is a 'normal' with corns ....there definitely ISN'T a normal where Miss Earnshaw is concerned .
You have done the right thing with covering her to eat up to know. It's what she's needed, and her noisy eating has shown that it hasn't affected her feeding adversely. Snakes rely more on their sense of smell than sight....and even in her covered faun she'll have been able to 'see' what was there. Now she's more confident it is a case of seeing what happens. My thinking is that with her next feed you do exactly what you did this time round, only that you're prepared for it , so tongs and uncovered. I'd love to say that she'll do a repeat performance....but this is Miss Cathy we're talking about so she may ignore the offered pinkie, in which case you resort to the old method. Then, next feed, try again.
DON'T beat yourself up about the fact that a pinkie 'may' have fallen on her head  ! There is nothing you could have done to stop it and you don't even know if it happened.
It's great that she's so active so soon after being fed....and that you are getting to see her drink . She really is coming on....and that is down to the hard work you have put in , don't forget that !!!
Xxx
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