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Mumhols
Hatchling
United Kingdom
110 Posts |
 Posted - 30/11/2012 : 22:03:23
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So peaches had her first feed at home today, she had 2 pinkies and did amazing, thought I would be grossed out but I was so proud of her, she struck really nicely but didn't constrict. She has gone for a burrow and not seen her since, she is normally at the front of the viv by now, I'm assuming this is totally normal as he is digesting her food? Just wanted to check and to tell you all she did so good!! Love my baby girl!
Is she likely to stay hidden now for a couple of days, I know i shouldn't handle her for 48 hours but should I check and see if she is okay as I can't see her? Also if she has a regurge ( never happened before) will she come our of hiding to do it? Don't know much about retgurges... Thanks all |
Holly
0.1.0 corn snake (creamsicle I think)-Peaches
0.01- bearded dragon- Ted
1.0.0 bunny- Biscuit
1.1.0 budgies- Rio and Daisy
3.2.0 children- Josh, Cohen, Kiefer, Bella and Elissa
1.0.0 hubby- Si
Love my guys loads |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 30/11/2012 : 22:08:19
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| nice one, and yes is normal for them to go hide away after a meal. wouldnt bother her now just lweave her be for the next 2 days and you will smell a regurge so wont make any odds i shes hidden away |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 30/11/2012 : 22:08:53
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You should leave a new snake for 7 days before handling feeding poking prodding anything at all.
The temps should be maintained for a good 3-4 days prior to feeding .
Have you got your stat? |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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Mumhols
Hatchling
United Kingdom
110 Posts |
Posted - 30/11/2012 : 22:54:07
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Yeah stat all up and running, temps are fine, she has only been coming on to my hand when I've changed water or checked temps last couple of days ( not touched her since feed just let her crawl out of her tub into bedding) only got her out once purposely to weigh her couple of days ago. She has been really inquisitive and friendly which is why I have stroked her and let her climb over me.
Sure she is okay just wanted to check |
Holly
0.1.0 corn snake (creamsicle I think)-Peaches
0.01- bearded dragon- Ted
1.0.0 bunny- Biscuit
1.1.0 budgies- Rio and Daisy
3.2.0 children- Josh, Cohen, Kiefer, Bella and Elissa
1.0.0 hubby- Si
Love my guys loads |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 30/11/2012 : 23:21:12
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| You should have waited to feed. What are your temps holding at? |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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Mumhols
Hatchling
United Kingdom
110 Posts |
Posted - 30/11/2012 : 23:36:31
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| 30.2. Lady in the reptile shop said I could feed her today so I did and she did great, we're keeping out the house this weekend quite a bit to give her some peace to digest quietly. |
Holly
0.1.0 corn snake (creamsicle I think)-Peaches
0.01- bearded dragon- Ted
1.0.0 bunny- Biscuit
1.1.0 budgies- Rio and Daisy
3.2.0 children- Josh, Cohen, Kiefer, Bella and Elissa
1.0.0 hubby- Si
Love my guys loads |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2012 : 08:12:48
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| Temps are too high drop them a couple of degrees. No contact us the normal rule, more tha one person explained this. And the reason for getting the temps steady is so you do not have to change them during digestion. 30.2 it's too hot you should aim for 27-29. 30 is a maximum that is ok to be reach every now and then or if there a medical reason. |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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Razee
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2525 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2012 : 09:29:40
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I'm going to have to stand up for for Mumhols a bit, I think we are being a bit harsh, and Mumhols is still learning.
In principle, Georgina is right, of course, but I also think that you have to treat each snake as an individual, and there are no hard and fast rules, just sensible guidelines.
We generally recommend leaving any new snake for a week, without touching or feeding. Kathy Love ( American corn snake breeder and expert of many years ) recommends leaving them for full 3 days. The first shop I got Baz from told me to leave him for 24h ( ! ). ( Fortunately, I'd read the Cathy Love book already ). Now, I've read threads of several people, who always feed new snake on the day of arrival, with success ( I don't do this myself, but each to their own ).
What I'm trying to say, is that there are no hard and fast rules, just guidelines, and lot depends on the snake. This particular snake seems quite chilled out, if it is coming out to see her and is happy to crawl on her hand voluntarily. It ate well. Fingers crossed, it will digest well, too, and no harm done. Come on, how many of us don't last the whole week? I lasted 5 days with Little T., before I fed him. Had he been nervous and hiding, I wouldn't have done it.
I'm not saying Gerogina is wrong, I just feel we're being a bit harsh to Mumhols. We all learn, all the time, and she's obviously concerned and caring about her corn snake.
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0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2012 : 09:47:19
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I wasn't trying to come across harsh.
I wouldn't normally have posted. But I have commented on a few thread myself and know that numerous other people have posted saying that there's normally a seven day rule. Which the normal rules apply, no handling, feeding etc. this is normally after the set up is steady. The set up is not stable yet and the temps are wrong, which personally think they should have been adjusted before feeding. I'm not say the snake is in danger or its going to affect them in any way. But I'm saying it might do and it's easier to prevent a situation. If that makes any sense
I wasn't trying to get at anyone or cause panic.
And was not meant to be horrid |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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Razee
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2525 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2012 : 12:16:06
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Ah, my apologies. I didn't read all Mumhols threads, so I didn't realize the temperatures have been up and down. I've only seen the 30.2, which is a bit high, but still just under the max point of 31C.
You're right about the temperatures needing to be stable, before attempting to feed, and I know you didn't mean to be horrid,( neither was I ), I was just worried it came across a bit harsh ( internet and texts )and Mumhols would stop asking for advice. :-)
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0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
0.1.0 house cat |
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Mumhols
Hatchling
United Kingdom
110 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2012 : 01:22:11
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Temps have been fine and from what I've read and been told from breeders etched they told me 30 is perfect for a baby to be digesting at. I do feel like I'm getting bit of negative posting but I accept you have your own experience as I will in On my way! Build up my own. My snake seems happy enough and I'm in no doubt that it was handled a lot being at a shop with people wanting to look at and possibly buy him, I don't see how it's any different with him coming on my hands when I've opened the top to check temps or change the water. If he wasn't settled he would be hiding, hissing, striking and regurging.. None of which has been done (so far)
I have asked for a lot of advice not just on here and I do believe I am doing the right things for my snake.
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Holly
0.1.0 corn snake (creamsicle I think)-Peaches
0.01- bearded dragon- Ted
1.0.0 bunny- Biscuit
1.1.0 budgies- Rio and Daisy
3.2.0 children- Josh, Cohen, Kiefer, Bella and Elissa
1.0.0 hubby- Si
Love my guys loads |
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Mags53
Egg
United Kingdom
80 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2012 : 02:24:43
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Surely if a snake has come from a pet shop where it will have been handled maybe every day it won't harm it to be handled straight away? I handled my 2 youngsters straight away on the basis that the sooner they get used to you the better, is that wrong? Also, they both fed within 48 hours of arriving, is that also wrong? They seem to be fine, am I just lucky? What happens to them if you handle them too soon? Feed them too soon?
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Mags
0.1.0 Kitty (CB12 Charcoal)- MIA since July, still hoping
0.1.0 Fizz (CB12 Carolina)
1.0.0 Sid (CB14 Miami)
1.0.0 Darcy (Gordon Setter)
1.0.0 Callan (Irish Setter)
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2012 : 08:09:38
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There were more posts earlier some have been deleted.
I was just point out what 'normally' is done. And what should be done. Otherwise we run the risk if new members reading this thread and running into issues.
The majority if people on this site would say that 30.2 is a tad to high.
Most of the time snakes are fine being handled and fed. But sometimes there can be issues which I'm sure you would agree at better avoided. Hence the rules as they are there to minimise stress.
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1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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Mags53
Egg
United Kingdom
80 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2012 : 08:59:01
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I'm now thinking that I need to be more careful with my next snake ;o)) it seems that I've been lucky. My questions aren't about temps, I'd already got the temps, it was the length of time you need to leave it before handling or feeding a new snake. What are the issues that can be caused? Is there a 'sticky' that I've missed (seem to spend hours on here reading everything!).
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Mags
0.1.0 Kitty (CB12 Charcoal)- MIA since July, still hoping
0.1.0 Fizz (CB12 Carolina)
1.0.0 Sid (CB14 Miami)
1.0.0 Darcy (Gordon Setter)
1.0.0 Callan (Irish Setter)
3.0.0 Jess, Jagger & Tigger (Cats) |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2012 : 09:10:35
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| You would probably be better off posting a new thread, you will get a more varied reply x |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2012 : 09:35:04
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| 30 deg is fine for corns, its top of the scale but is fine |
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5853 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2012 : 10:08:50
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quote:
Originally posted by Georgina
There were more posts earlier some have been deleted.
I was just point out what 'normally' is done. And what should be done. Otherwise we run the risk if new members reading this thread and running into issues.
The majority if people on this site would say that 30.2 is a tad to high.
Most of the time snakes are fine being handled and fed. But sometimes there can be issues which I'm sure you would agree at better avoided. Hence the rules as they are there to minimise stress.
My posts have been deleted, I went to edit and they vanished!
I had said that basically I agree with Georgina over the temps and handling issues. Also there didn't seem much point in asking for our advice if the help we offer is ignored.
We are a friendly forum and we give an honest answer to any questions put to us. Sometimes the advice we give and the actions taken conflict and that's when misunderstandings happen.
I always try to help and I know Georgina was doing the same.
If I came over as anything different them I'm sorry but I stand by the help I gave.  |
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Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
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Mumhols
Hatchling
United Kingdom
110 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2012 : 12:42:04
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| Herriotfan, I wasn't meaning your posts when I said I felt a a bit picked on, I appreciate all opinions and replies I'm new here and don't want to cause trouble, just felt it worth mentioning what I have been told/ read elsewhere as this isn't the only place information can be found. It's now 48 hours since she was fed and she is still hiding at the mo which she does most of the morning/early agternoon s yeah. Her temps are 29.4 as advised by Georgina I turned them down slightly.thanks guys for your opinions and help. :-) |
Holly
0.1.0 corn snake (creamsicle I think)-Peaches
0.01- bearded dragon- Ted
1.0.0 bunny- Biscuit
1.1.0 budgies- Rio and Daisy
3.2.0 children- Josh, Cohen, Kiefer, Bella and Elissa
1.0.0 hubby- Si
Love my guys loads |
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