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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 27/11/2012 : 20:09:04
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| Right, argument with the other half right now. Peregrine have a "Fire" Amelanistic Bloodred in stock and although I've tried explaining that a Bloodred is not a true Bloodred unless it has plain white belly and no patterning at all he's insistent that it must be a Bloodred x Amel... As far as I'm aware a Fire is a Amel x Diffused. I know Bloodred is a selectively bred diffused. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2012 : 20:15:03
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| fire is a combo of amel and diffused, its a 2 gene corn ;) just cause they are using the term bloodred is still just a nice coloured diffused. |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2012 : 21:51:27
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| Thank you Gmac, that's what I'm trying to say and he's arguing that Bloodred is different to Diffused despite it just being a selectively bred Diffused... |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2012 : 22:08:29
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| you are correct, |
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2012 : 23:21:01
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Originally posted by gmac
you are correct,
He's saying that a Bloodred is as different to a Diffused as a Ghost is to a Caramel. |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2012 : 23:24:05
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bloodred is a selectively bred diffused for the colour, Bloodred is not a gene it is a colour variant of the diffused gene, granted they do have a different appearance but in the end they are diffused gene corns. Same as sunglow is just an amel really. Ghosts and caramels are very different as they are completely different genes.
Some less scrupulous sellers pass their diffused off as bloodreds.
slap him with a wet kipper, i have some spare as not had to use any on the forums for a while lol
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oakleyman18
Yearling
828 Posts |
Posted - 28/11/2012 : 10:35:44
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Haha YES Gmac!! Top marks for the fish.
AcidAngel, he's completely right. Genetically, it's a diffused. It's definitely not a fair comparison to say it's like a "ghost vs caramel"... Sorry, but this guy doesn't know what e's talking about. That or he's just lying to your face. Fire's can't be bloodred anyway, as, like you say, it's just a selectively bred diffused. Bottom line, Fire = DIFFUSED + Amel. Even if you had a true Bloodred het Amel X Bloodred het Amel pairing, the resulting fires would just be fires. Sure, they might look like top notch fires, but when you breed back selectively breds, you lose generations of work to make them what they are. This also means you can't have "het bloodred". You just have het diffused. |
Oscar Morrell
0.1.0. Tessera het Caramel Diffused Hypo ph Amel Anery CB'12 "Cassi", 0.1.0. Diffused Powder CB'12 "Ruby"
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender CB'11 "Amber", 1.0.0. Lavender Stripe het Diffused Anery Amel Hypo CB'11 "Pluto"
1.0.0. Hypo Opal Ph Stripe CB'12 "Hops", 1.0.0. Caramel Stripe het Amel CB'08 "Jasper", 1.0.0. Opal Stripe het Anery CB'09 "Topaz"
0.1.0. Amel Stripe het Caramel CB'09 "Poppy", 0.1.0. Tessera het Amel Lavender Stripe ph Diffused Hypo Anery CB'12 "Amethyst" |
Edited by - oakleyman18 on 28/11/2012 10:36:23 |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1212 Posts |
Posted - 01/12/2012 : 21:19:45
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Thank you all  |
Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings. |
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