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Raycheroo
Hatchling

United Kingdom
102 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2012 :  19:37:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We have a carolina and king snake that are about 16 months old and we are a little unsure what to do about food...do we up the number of fluffs we give them or switch to bigger prey?
They are already on 2 fluffs per week, but they both seem to be looking around for more food even after their second....
the only reason i ask is that we looked at the small mice ameyzoo had and it seemed like a big jump.
Any advice handy please :)


a33272
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/11/2012 :  19:55:00  Show Profile  Visit a33272's Homepage  Send a33272 an AOL message  Click to see a33272's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Bear in mind they both can take a rodent one and a half times bigger than Them. I wouldn't be feeding anymore than 2 a time though.



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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5853 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2012 :  20:41:29  Show Profile  Click to see herriotfan's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
If two fluffs are not leaving a bump then I'd move up a size.
As long as their prey isn't bigger than 1.5 times the size of the snakes widest part you'll be ok.


Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
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Raycheroo
Hatchling

United Kingdom
102 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2012 :  21:17:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
no barely a bump really....what food should they be on at this age?


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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3315 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2012 :  22:04:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There isn't really a set food they should be on for their age as snakes grow at such different rates. There's quite a few guides based on weight, but it is only a suggestion (many of them vary too) and should be used with common sense. The rules of no wider than 1.5 times the widest part of the snake is the best. If there is no lump after feeding though, that is normally a pretty good indicator that they could go up a size.

Here is one such weight based guide, but as I said, most people use the 1.5 times rule rather than bothering with weighing food items etc.
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23925

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Raycheroo
Hatchling

United Kingdom
102 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2012 :  22:07:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I knew the 1.5 rule...maybe im being too protective as i feel that small mice look too big...may buy a few next time i go to the shop and see how they size up...thank you all for your help x


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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5853 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2012 :  22:09:14  Show Profile  Click to see herriotfan's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Raycheroo

no barely a bump really....what food should they be on at this age?



I agree that age is less important than size.
I always feed my snakes according to size and have never worried about age other than when they were tiny hatchlings. As soon as a pinky didn't leave a bump I started feeding on size.


Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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Raycheroo
Hatchling

United Kingdom
102 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2012 :  22:30:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by herriotfan
I agree that age is less important than size.
I always feed my snakes according to size and have never worried about age other than when they were tiny hatchlings. As soon as a pinky didn't leave a bump I started feeding on size.



I wasn't sure, just me being naive :P ...these are my babies and i just wouldnt want to do them wrong


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lupi lou
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3670 Posts

Posted - 13/11/2012 :  15:53:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
every one worries when moving up a size, if you can get hoppers you could try them. I couldnt get hoppers localy so when i moved 8 up from double fluffs he went onto smalls, and i nearly gave myself a heart attack thinking it was too big and he was going to struggle, 8 on the other hand wasnt bothered in the slightest.


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Nasicus
Egg

United Kingdom
74 Posts

Posted - 13/11/2012 :  16:48:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Assuming they're growing normally, at 16 months they /should/ be on smalls. I say should, as some don't grow very well, like one of mine. Why not post some photos up, with something for size comparison or maybe some photos of them having been fed, and it'll be easier to say :)

Corns:
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0.1.0 Amel - Psiren
0.1.0 Fire - Cat
1.0.0 Normal - Rimmer
1.0.0 Kinked Butter - Kryten

Hognoses:
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0.1.0 Normal - Rocket

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Dancross0
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1315 Posts

Posted - 13/11/2012 :  17:01:16  Show Profile  Visit Dancross0's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Smalls will be fine for them. To give you an idea of what a corn can eat, here is a pic of my ghost motley eating an extra large mouse.



Sirae is 16 months old, 91cm long, and weighed 197 grams when this pic was taken. The mouse weighed 37 grams.
Aside from an extra day digesting, there was no problem with this size prey.



Aguna CB11 Anery - Typhon CB12 Amber - Plissken CB08 Carolina - Iara CB11 Caramel

Indra CB12 Lavender (?) - Evren CB12 Carolina (?) - Ophis CB11 Hypo Lavender - Sirae CB11 Ghost Motley


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Raycheroo
Hatchling

United Kingdom
102 Posts

Posted - 13/11/2012 :  17:10:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok thank you very much, thats made me feel a bit better


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a33272
our battery charger

United Kingdom
3063 Posts

Posted - 13/11/2012 :  17:19:48  Show Profile  Visit a33272's Homepage  Send a33272 an AOL message  Click to see a33272's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Just ask for small smalls. The issue with rodent size is its all by weight eg where I buy from a small could be 10g or it could be 15g as anything within that range is classed as small but another supplier I use say there smalls are average 9.6g. Dontbe affraid to actually ask to pick the ones u want then you can get what looks right.



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